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qyk05328
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany635 Posts
April 21 2013 20:48 GMT
#361
On April 22 2013 05:29 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:27 BurningSera wrote:
goddamnit Korok went full man mode today, if they backed off after killing luna's aegis everything would be fine D:

Rather full retard mode for 2 games in a row.

The problem with Korok is that he occasionally makes some awesome, game-changing plays and dominates everything. Which masks the fact that he's also very inconsistent and unreliable.

A team with ambitions to be at the very top simply cannot afford to rely on that style of play. Reaching top spots in tournaments means that you are playing more games than everybody else, so there is always enough opportunities to screw up and if you lack consistency it doesn't really matter how much potential you have.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#362
On April 22 2013 05:48 qyk05328 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:29 renfree wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:27 BurningSera wrote:
goddamnit Korok went full man mode today, if they backed off after killing luna's aegis everything would be fine D:

Rather full retard mode for 2 games in a row.

The problem with Korok is that he occasionally makes some awesome, game-changing plays and dominates everything. Which masks the fact that he's also very inconsistent and unreliable.

A team with ambitions to be at the very top simply cannot afford to rely on that style of play. Reaching top spots in tournaments means that you are playing more games than everybody else, so there is always enough opportunities to screw up and if you lack consistency it doesn't really matter how much potential you have.

I think most people just label risky players as inconsistent.
Korok, just like SingSing or to a higher level Iciceice, play very risky and they either feed or snowball because of it.

You can't be risky and expect to be consistent while doing it, especially when facing teams similar/better than you. Zenith was 24-2 or something ridiculous like that until they met IG and Ice3 fed 2 games and lost both almost singlehandedly.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
sirpsychosexy
Profile Joined April 2012
United States33 Posts
April 21 2013 21:04 GMT
#363
EG looked pretty good, Fear showing versatility as he is by far one of the best western dota players, but it is a shame he cant carry and support at the same time. I don't know if I trust Jeyo to play the 1 role, still have not been impressed by him, but at the same time Fear having to carry and relying on Maelk and bdiz for support isnt the best scenario either.

Demon and Fear show so much potential, and sometimes I feel Maelk does too (but less and less these days), I just hope the other guys can step up to make EG a force to be reckoned with again. Also I think they are going to be moving into a team house soon, Fear tweeted he is moving on monday and they have been alluding to it on their Raidcall Q&A's. Not to mention Demon making a trip to San Fran recently, where EG is reestablishing themselves.

So I think EG is on the right path to get back to the top, and damn did Bamboe look good too, fun series to watch.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 21 2013 21:10 GMT
#364
if keita wins vs fnatic.na, does liquid have a winner bracket adv of any sort?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 21:13:27
April 21 2013 21:12 GMT
#365
On April 22 2013 06:04 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:48 qyk05328 wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 renfree wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:27 BurningSera wrote:
goddamnit Korok went full man mode today, if they backed off after killing luna's aegis everything would be fine D:

Rather full retard mode for 2 games in a row.

The problem with Korok is that he occasionally makes some awesome, game-changing plays and dominates everything. Which masks the fact that he's also very inconsistent and unreliable.

A team with ambitions to be at the very top simply cannot afford to rely on that style of play. Reaching top spots in tournaments means that you are playing more games than everybody else, so there is always enough opportunities to screw up and if you lack consistency it doesn't really matter how much potential you have.

I think most people just label risky players as inconsistent.
Korok, just like SingSing or to a higher level Iciceice, play very risky and they either feed or snowball because of it.

You can't be risky and expect to be consistent while doing it, especially when facing teams similar/better than you. Zenith was 24-2 or something ridiculous like that until they met IG and Ice3 fed 2 games and lost both almost singlehandedly.
I haven't watched a lot of QPAD play but at least on Mouz I don't think SingSing was ever one of the riskier mid players.

I don't agree totally anyway, if we look at a player like s4 or scandal. They are both aggressive players that have a much smaller degree of inconsistency.
if keita wins vs fnatic.na, does liquid have a winner bracket adv of any sort?
No, they've both lost 1 game and won 1 game.
Once you Goblak...
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
April 21 2013 21:16 GMT
#366
On April 22 2013 06:12 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 06:04 Diavlo wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:48 qyk05328 wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:29 renfree wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:27 BurningSera wrote:
goddamnit Korok went full man mode today, if they backed off after killing luna's aegis everything would be fine D:

Rather full retard mode for 2 games in a row.

The problem with Korok is that he occasionally makes some awesome, game-changing plays and dominates everything. Which masks the fact that he's also very inconsistent and unreliable.

A team with ambitions to be at the very top simply cannot afford to rely on that style of play. Reaching top spots in tournaments means that you are playing more games than everybody else, so there is always enough opportunities to screw up and if you lack consistency it doesn't really matter how much potential you have.

I think most people just label risky players as inconsistent.
Korok, just like SingSing or to a higher level Iciceice, play very risky and they either feed or snowball because of it.

You can't be risky and expect to be consistent while doing it, especially when facing teams similar/better than you. Zenith was 24-2 or something ridiculous like that until they met IG and Ice3 fed 2 games and lost both almost singlehandedly.
I haven't watched a lot of QPAD play but at least on Mouz I don't think SingSing was ever one of the riskier mid players.

I don't agree totally anyway, if we look at a player like s4 or scandal. They are both aggressive players that have a much smaller degree of inconsistency.
Show nested quote +
if keita wins vs fnatic.na, does liquid have a winner bracket adv of any sort?
No, they've both lost 1 game and won 1 game.

Aggressive don't always mean risky. Korok went SB instead of BKB to look for pick-ups and it backfired entirely. It was risky but not particularly aggressive. Same with Singsing.
Although I agree most of Ice3 riskiness comes from being overly aggressive (when it doesn't involve no-ban strategies... :p )
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
sc_a.M
Profile Joined April 2013
420 Posts
April 21 2013 21:18 GMT
#367
when does the next game start?
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 21 2013 21:18 GMT
#368
After this match: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/beyondthesummit2
Once you Goblak...
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
April 21 2013 21:26 GMT
#369
Loving the DKC2 music played during breaks :D
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 21 2013 21:42 GMT
#370
Liquid vs Keita Part Deux
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
April 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#371
Korok messing up his sleep schedule for G-1 really isnt helping his current play...
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 22:07:41
April 21 2013 22:07 GMT
#372
Does anyone know how the brackets for the finals are drawn? because if group D gets faced against group A or B, Liquid getting second place is definitely advantageous.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
April 21 2013 22:10 GMT
#373
why did korok even ulti there, no chance at the bm -_-
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 21 2013 22:13 GMT
#374
Will this be the last series today or will there be any more games after Liquid - Keita?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 22:22:10
April 21 2013 22:20 GMT
#375
On April 22 2013 07:13 Ange777 wrote:
Will this be the last series today or will there be any more games after Liquid - Keita?

I believe they said this was the last series. Winner will be in the playoffs alongside EG.

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
April 21 2013 22:45 GMT
#376
Druid getting crushed by Naix, isn't it supposed to be kind of even?
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
April 21 2013 22:50 GMT
#377
is there any vods up yet from the previous liquid eg game?
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 23:12:48
April 21 2013 23:04 GMT
#378
On April 22 2013 07:45 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
Druid getting crushed by Naix, isn't it supposed to be kind of even?


Player skill is obviously a factor but considering TC also crushed Aui's bear in this same matchup I would say the matchup is at least even if not in favour of Naix. Then again, Aui also stated that TC is probably the best laner out of all the Western carry players.

-e- and I'm happy to see TL advances in this tourney. I almost started to worry after the unconvincing performance against EG.
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
April 21 2013 23:23 GMT
#379
On April 22 2013 08:04 AwfuL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 07:45 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
Druid getting crushed by Naix, isn't it supposed to be kind of even?


Player skill is obviously a factor but considering TC also crushed Aui's bear in this same matchup I would say the matchup is at least even if not in favour of Naix. Then again, Aui also stated that TC is probably the best laner out of all the Western carry players.

-e- and I'm happy to see TL advances in this tourney. I almost started to worry after the unconvincing performance against EG.


Yeah, problem with the matchup is that lifestealer just heals an enormous amount of HP by trading hits with your bear, so you can't really use it to harass him. TC didn't even need to use his tangoes :\
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 22 2013 06:09 GMT
#380
On April 22 2013 07:45 NeoSlicerZ wrote:
Druid getting crushed by Naix, isn't it supposed to be kind of even?

If you go racecar naix you own sylla. If not, youll be even when sylla hits 5.
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