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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#3561
nth's supports were very poor. not enough to survive one round of long range initiation by navi, and they can't keep a front-line back-line formation to protect themselves given how mobile navi's storm and bat were.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:34:20
April 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#3562
On April 26 2013 23:31 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:29 poorcloud wrote:
On April 26 2013 23:28 allen_ami wrote:
lol, navi did nothing tbh

nth just lose the unlose-able


PL is strong late game but NTH were far too reliant on him whereas Navi could count on storm and am to deal the dps.


Nah.

If you give iG that line-up,they won't lose like that.
They would slowly pushed/turtled out and played it spoon-killer style.

NTH was giving stupid kills.

And no gem after 30 mins?
Wtf?
Navi had insane ward vision in their jungle and near their deep mid.
So they could gank S4 whenever.

And 430/Yao Magnus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S4 Magnus.
If you give any other EU team Na'Vi's lineup they don't all win either.

I don't know why this is an enormous throw, they were behind all game, Anti-mage split-push is pretty strong. They didn't land the big RP's they needed 'to come back'. It's not like they had it and lost it.
Once you Goblak...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#3563
On April 26 2013 23:31 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:29 poorcloud wrote:
On April 26 2013 23:28 allen_ami wrote:
lol, navi did nothing tbh

nth just lose the unlose-able


PL is strong late game but NTH were far too reliant on him whereas Navi could count on storm and am to deal the dps.


Nah.

If you give iG that line-up,they won't lose like that.
They would slowly pushed/turtled out and played it spoon-killer style.

NTH was giving stupid kills.

And no gem after 30 mins?
Wtf?
Navi had insane ward vision in their jungle and near their deep mid.
So they could gank S4 whenever.

And 430/Yao Magnus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S4 Magnus.

well nth doesnt have chuan and yyf either...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
April 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#3564
Abyssal was the best choice IMO, they just need to do really good kiting against the PL while finishing off the lion/mag to get the kill. Navi's decision making has been superior the entire game, maybe bar xboct's initial choice of going manta.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 26 2013 14:33 GMT
#3565
On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k

Chinamang stream how many?


Currently beating DH. SC2 clearly dieing.
EnvyUK
Profile Joined September 2011
England467 Posts
April 26 2013 14:34 GMT
#3566
On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k

Chinamang stream how many?


5000 were ingame when I checked half way through that game. That's a lot of sold tickets, since I assume many won't have been able to catch this live with the time it's on.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:36:18
April 26 2013 14:35 GMT
#3567
On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?


Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad



Yep, Kuroky was right.

he is right. but its not like some moves were genius by navi. dendi killing s4 in woods looked really nice.
on the other hand you have a 400hp xboct who runs into magnus and lion kills both and is a god. egm could have just casted finger right at the start and am would have been dead...
FTD
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 26 2013 14:35 GMT
#3568
On April 26 2013 23:34 EnvyUK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k

Chinamang stream how many?


5000 were ingame when I checked half way through that game. That's a lot of sold tickets, since I assume many won't have been able to catch this live with the time it's on.


It wouldn't be crazy to assume at least twice that amount bought tickets.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 26 2013 14:36 GMT
#3569
On April 26 2013 23:33 Oktyabr wrote:
Abyssal was the best choice IMO, they just need to do really good kiting against the PL while finishing off the lion/mag to get the kill. Navi's decision making has been superior the entire game, maybe bar xboct's initial choice of going manta.


I give a lot flak on XBOCT
But he seriously played well in that game.

Good decision making.
Play your best
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
April 26 2013 14:37 GMT
#3570
On April 26 2013 23:31 FakeDeath wrote:
And 430/Yao Magnus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S4 Magnus.


You can't say that. Both 430 and Yao were playing Magnus against teams that had no idea how to play against that hero. It's not thát hard to get 4 man RPs against LGD.int when they're standing clumped as 4, which is the main game from which people got the impression 'oh, 430 is really good on Mag'.

And long range initiation heroes like Storm and Puck make Magnus's life a hell.
BuLba
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1585 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:38:40
April 26 2013 14:38 GMT
#3571
people r overestimating what 1 pl can do vs tri core like bat storm and am with items. remember the zenith vs DK games? even tho burning had more farm than every1 on the map, zenith's tri core of qop luna tinker was more than what 1 hero can handle.
also mag is quite hard to play vs storm
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
April 26 2013 14:38 GMT
#3572
On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?


Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad



Yep, Kuroky was right.


Sad how it's the negative sentiments that catch on easiest, and the people perpetuating it see it as just a (unjustifiably) hilarious thing to say EVERY SINGLE TIME.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
April 26 2013 14:39 GMT
#3573
On April 26 2013 23:31 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:29 poorcloud wrote:
On April 26 2013 23:28 allen_ami wrote:
lol, navi did nothing tbh

nth just lose the unlose-able


PL is strong late game but NTH were far too reliant on him whereas Navi could count on storm and am to deal the dps.


Nah.

If you give iG that line-up,they won't lose like that.
They would slowly pushed/turtled out and played it spoon-killer style.

NTH was giving stupid kills.

And no gem after 30 mins?
Wtf?
Navi had insane ward vision in their jungle and near their deep mid.
So they could gank S4 whenever.

And 430/Yao Magnus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S4 Magnus.


Well not everything team has a wealth of talent like IG.
No team can be expected to play perfectly.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2013 14:39 GMT
#3574
On April 26 2013 23:36 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:33 Oktyabr wrote:
Abyssal was the best choice IMO, they just need to do really good kiting against the PL while finishing off the lion/mag to get the kill. Navi's decision making has been superior the entire game, maybe bar xboct's initial choice of going manta.


I give a lot flak on XBOCT
But he seriously played well in that game.

Good decision making.

the split pushing was nice. aggressive blinks could have cost him a lot.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
April 26 2013 14:39 GMT
#3575
Game 3 started.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:41:17
April 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#3576
On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k

Chinamang stream how many?


There was 65k or so on on one stream @ Fengyunzhibo that game (still 60k now)

not sure if there are more streams or what.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#3577
On April 26 2013 23:33 oneofthem wrote:
nth's supports were very poor. not enough to survive one round of long range initiation by navi, and they can't keep a front-line back-line formation to protect themselves given how mobile navi's storm and bat were.


s4 is too poor as a 50mins mag, given 430 he would have gotten 2x refreshers xD

but mainly is the experience of dealing with late game situations, like clock and lion didnt even know what to do or they were too tired at that stage of the game (didnt hex or ulti that 400hp AM), that 3 deaths at the bottom lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
cupoftealove
Profile Joined August 2012
325 Posts
April 26 2013 14:40 GMT
#3578
On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k

Chinamang stream how many?



I got ~98k on Twitch when you include Onemoregame, VP, Versuta etc.

The 3 biggest streams on Fengyunzhibo added up to ~110k.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#3579
On April 26 2013 23:33 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 23:31 FakeDeath wrote:
On April 26 2013 23:29 poorcloud wrote:
On April 26 2013 23:28 allen_ami wrote:
lol, navi did nothing tbh

nth just lose the unlose-able


PL is strong late game but NTH were far too reliant on him whereas Navi could count on storm and am to deal the dps.


Nah.

If you give iG that line-up,they won't lose like that.
They would slowly pushed/turtled out and played it spoon-killer style.

NTH was giving stupid kills.

And no gem after 30 mins?
Wtf?
Navi had insane ward vision in their jungle and near their deep mid.
So they could gank S4 whenever.

And 430/Yao Magnus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>S4 Magnus.

well nth doesnt have chuan and yyf either...

Well, IG did lose to a no ban strat. I want to see Loda do that.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
April 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#3580
On April 26 2013 23:38 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
people r overestimating what 1 pl can do vs tri core like bat storm and am with items. remember the zenith vs DK games? even tho burning had more farm than every1 on the map, zenith's tri core of qop luna tinker was more than what 1 hero can handle.
also mag is quite hard to play vs storm


Your input is excellent as always good sir, that is a terrible lineup to go up against as a Mag Bat, Storm and Rubick all good at dealing with him and later on abyssal AM as well.

And the tricore of Na'Vi did so much work while Alliance were banking a bit too hard on only PL.
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