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On April 26 2013 23:38 traumatism wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?
Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad Yep, Kuroky was right. Sad how it's the negative sentiments that catch on easiest, and the people perpetuating it see it as just a (unjustifiably) hilarious thing to say EVERY SINGLE TIME.
well there r two sides to this. when you have players that state losing a game as a throw and nothing else, it perpetuates among the viewers and fans as well.
'why'd you lose?"
"oh we threw, #Throw2013" etc
u get my drift.
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stop arguing, just accept the fact that when they practice and motivated na'vi are unstoppable at western scene.
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On April 26 2013 23:40 cupoftealove wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:32 Kipsate wrote:
EN stream about 40k total
Ru stream 40k
Chinamang stream how many? I got ~98k on Twitch when you include Onemoregame, VP, Versuta etc. The 3 biggest streams on Fengyunzhibo added up to ~110k.
Totally deserves the huge viewer count!!! This mini-TI is so good <3
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On April 26 2013 23:33 Oktyabr wrote:
Abyssal was the best choice IMO, they just need to do really good kiting against the PL while finishing off the lion/mag to get the kill. Navi's decision making has been superior the entire game, maybe bar xboct's initial choice of going manta.
I don't agree with him going Manta either necessarily, but you dont want BF on a tri vs tri
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Navi did almost everything right. They made the decision to 5 man early before Mag has his blink to get some crucial towers, and continued to get towers as 5 while AM made his way to manta. I don't think most teams would usually do this when you have an AM in your lineup. I also think a really important sign of the good farm distribution is how bat has shivas and dendi has both hex + bkb as they headed bottom when AM has his aegis.
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AM right after a Chen and Nature's Prophet pick by Alliance? o_o Fingers crossed...
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On April 26 2013 23:41 Liquid`BuLba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:38 traumatism wrote:On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?
Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad Yep, Kuroky was right. Sad how it's the negative sentiments that catch on easiest, and the people perpetuating it see it as just a (unjustifiably) hilarious thing to say EVERY SINGLE TIME. well there r two sides to this. when you have players that state losing a game as a throw and nothing else, it perpetuates among the viewers and fans as well. 'why'd you lose?" "oh we threw, #Throw2013" etc u get my drift.
EG and Fumoffu Throws Fan Club are (or were) huge on this kind of thing.
And spectators are heavily influenced by players/casters.
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On April 26 2013 23:41 Kentakky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:38 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
people r overestimating what 1 pl can do vs tri core like bat storm and am with items. remember the zenith vs DK games? even tho burning had more farm than every1 on the map, zenith's tri core of qop luna tinker was more than what 1 hero can handle.
also mag is quite hard to play vs storm Your input is excellent as always good sir, that is a terrible lineup to go up against as a Mag Bat, Storm and Rubick all good at dealing with him and later on abyssal AM as well. And the tricore of Na'Vi did so much work while Alliance were banking a bit too hard on only PL.
Good Point..The Tricore of na'vi had good farm whereas S4 just had a dagger and nothing else..Plus jakiro can tank like a baws in the lategame plus he threw like 4-5 icepaths in the last 2 fights each
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Loda carry furi incoming or spec time!
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Russian Federation3336 Posts
On April 26 2013 23:41 Liquid`BuLba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:38 traumatism wrote:On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?
Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad Yep, Kuroky was right. Sad how it's the negative sentiments that catch on easiest, and the people perpetuating it see it as just a (unjustifiably) hilarious thing to say EVERY SINGLE TIME. well there r two sides to this. when you have players that state losing a game as a throw and nothing else, it perpetuates among the viewers and fans as well. 'why'd you lose?" "oh we threw, #Throw2013" etc u get my drift.
I think both teams played so well.. and no one really threw... XBOCT was constantly exploiting the out of position supports and pushing lanes where PL wasn't. If they like dove past towers and overextended severely, yes some games can be very thrown, but this game both teams were playing so safely and just waiting for the slightest error or positional advantage. And XBOCT ignoring rosh and getting rax was huge, as was the rest of Na'Vi' preventing Alliance get back and killing off aegis. That in no way was a throw by mag (who's getting so much flak right now for not getting a single RP off...) Like Dendi first game, this game Na'vi had 4 ranged heroes so it was really hard to get a good RP off... such a good game in my opinion
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Alchemist/DK/Spec? What's it going to be?
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On April 26 2013 23:43 ReignSupreme. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 23:41 Liquid`BuLba wrote:On April 26 2013 23:38 traumatism wrote:On April 26 2013 23:33 DDie wrote:You've been around for a long time in the DotA scene. What's the biggest difference between DotA then and now?
Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad Yep, Kuroky was right. Sad how it's the negative sentiments that catch on easiest, and the people perpetuating it see it as just a (unjustifiably) hilarious thing to say EVERY SINGLE TIME. well there r two sides to this. when you have players that state losing a game as a throw and nothing else, it perpetuates among the viewers and fans as well. 'why'd you lose?" "oh we threw, #Throw2013" etc u get my drift. EG and Fumoffu Throws Fan Club are (or were) huge on this kind of thing. And spectators are heavily influenced by players/casters.
yea, twitch streamers and their influence can probably be a behavioral study on the extent to how much individuals think for themselves or believe w/e their favorite person tells them.
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really happy this went to a game 3.. ooo loda alchemist
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On April 26 2013 23:45 teapoted wrote:
Alchemist/DK/Spec? What's it going to be?
I feel like this is a greedy alliance draft. And it's alchemist
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That game 2 made me very excited for The International.
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I hope the next patch don't change to much the metagame now.. there are SO MANY viable pick now compare to TI2
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On April 26 2013 23:38 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
people r overestimating what 1 pl can do vs tri core like bat storm and am with items. remember the zenith vs DK games? even tho burning had more farm than every1 on the map, zenith's tri core of qop luna tinker was more than what 1 hero can handle.
also mag is quite hard to play vs storm
Ironically,Burning also prove that 1 hero can beat tri core.
His AM carry play.
His Alchemist carry player.
His LD druid play.
etc.
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Oh love this last pick Tinker
not sure I've ever seen Funn1k play it though :O
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funnik played it on empire sometimes
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