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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 26 2013 13:16 GMT
#3301
On April 26 2013 22:13 Kabutomaru wrote:
How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated?


It's not Xbocts' fault at all.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 26 2013 13:16 GMT
#3302
On April 26 2013 22:13 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I don't understand why Na'Vi played the early like that... Alliance with Furion + Io means shitty lanes. So from there you have 2 choices as Na'Vi: go full agressive and make the lanes so you prevent Sven farming, or at least prevent Furion farming by making him feel unsafe in his own jungle; or you play the farm game, like Na'Vi did, but in that case you build adequate items, not fucking Maelstrom. Is that Xboct decision? I don't know, so I won't blame him, but the choice of the item was crap for the strategy they used.
Maybe he bought it thinking they were gonna play it agressively after the laning phase was over, but they never even tried anything... Roshan was a good idea, but when they saw Xboct losing half of his life they just should have B instantly, bad decision here. After that it was pretty much over, and Alliance played the fights perfectly...

With the team they had, and against a Io and a NP (two weak teamfight heroes), why didn't Na'Vi tried to force the issue early ? :s


Taking the Rosh was trying to force the issue early. They thought they had superior teamfight, and as such could handle the Rosh fight. But the engagement went really badly and turned the game. It could have easily meant either a Rosh for Navi so they could easily force fights or even a teamfight win into Rosh.

In the end it wasn't the best decision, it was too risky and Alliance managed to get a really good engagement, but you can't say they were playing passive early game.

Having destroyed just 1 tower after 15Mn is passive sorry... with Dendi farmed as he was they could have destroyed at least 2-3 more because Prophet had just a midas at this point and Sven far from his bkb... I don't know I feel like at this level of play, teams should at least have a precise general gameplan. Small decision mistakes always happen even with the best teams, but overall tactic mistakes are noobish for Na'Vi..
Kabutomaru
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria226 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3303
On April 26 2013 22:16 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:13 Kabutomaru wrote:
How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated?


It's not Xbocts' fault at all.



I also think so...
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3304
s4 with mag, gg
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3305
On April 26 2013 22:13 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?)

It was more about ancient stacks, than Midas. Loda had a huge gold income off that.

exactly. that was the thing keeping in the game, and the rosh fight just slammed the door on na'vi. there was no way loda could die unless it was 4+ versus him (and wisp kept bailing him out)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3306
kotl PL mag :O
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3307
PL for Alliance lololol
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3308
On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?)

i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@

10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses

You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3309
S4 Magnus
yeah.....Na'vi really need to play out of their minds or be ready for 3-4 man RP
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3310
What is this about betting for rares? I don't get it
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3311
Alliance will pick up Clockwork for Admiral Bulldog imo.
gOst
Profile Joined June 2011
415 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3312
Here we go. mag + kotl + cancer...
sigh
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3313
On April 26 2013 22:18 mordk wrote:
What is this about betting for rares? I don't get it


http://dota2lounge.com/

very popular

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S4 Mag, GL HF na'vi
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3314
Holy shit alliance really wants to win this game
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3315
What's Xbox going to pick now?

No Naix or PL.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3316
Kuroky stolen RP will be the game changer
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3317
Picks pretty please?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3318
gonna be alliance fnatic again? haha revenge revenge time. hope navi does well
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3319
On April 26 2013 22:18 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?)

i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@

10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses

You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize.

i think killing the unit instantly equalizes that
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 26 2013 13:21 GMT
#3320
On April 26 2013 22:18 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?)

i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@

10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses

You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize.



I always feel midas is more about the experience gain (x2,5) than the gold gain - in this game NP and Sven had quite a lead in that regard.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
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