On April 26 2013 22:13 Kabutomaru wrote:
How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated?
How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated?
It's not Xbocts' fault at all.
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
April 26 2013 13:16 GMT
#3301
On April 26 2013 22:13 Kabutomaru wrote: How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated? It's not Xbocts' fault at all. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
April 26 2013 13:16 GMT
#3302
On April 26 2013 22:13 SKC wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:09 WillyWanker wrote: I don't understand why Na'Vi played the early like that... Alliance with Furion + Io means shitty lanes. So from there you have 2 choices as Na'Vi: go full agressive and make the lanes so you prevent Sven farming, or at least prevent Furion farming by making him feel unsafe in his own jungle; or you play the farm game, like Na'Vi did, but in that case you build adequate items, not fucking Maelstrom. Is that Xboct decision? I don't know, so I won't blame him, but the choice of the item was crap for the strategy they used. Maybe he bought it thinking they were gonna play it agressively after the laning phase was over, but they never even tried anything... Roshan was a good idea, but when they saw Xboct losing half of his life they just should have B instantly, bad decision here. After that it was pretty much over, and Alliance played the fights perfectly... With the team they had, and against a Io and a NP (two weak teamfight heroes), why didn't Na'Vi tried to force the issue early ? :s Taking the Rosh was trying to force the issue early. They thought they had superior teamfight, and as such could handle the Rosh fight. But the engagement went really badly and turned the game. It could have easily meant either a Rosh for Navi so they could easily force fights or even a teamfight win into Rosh. In the end it wasn't the best decision, it was too risky and Alliance managed to get a really good engagement, but you can't say they were playing passive early game. Having destroyed just 1 tower after 15Mn is passive sorry... with Dendi farmed as he was they could have destroyed at least 2-3 more because Prophet had just a midas at this point and Sven far from his bkb... I don't know I feel like at this level of play, teams should at least have a precise general gameplan. Small decision mistakes always happen even with the best teams, but overall tactic mistakes are noobish for Na'Vi.. | ||
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Kabutomaru
Bulgaria226 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3303
On April 26 2013 22:16 BlitzerSC wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:13 Kabutomaru wrote: How is this XBocTs fault that his mates leave their carry got initiated? It's not Xbocts' fault at all. I also think so... | ||
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Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3304
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2013 13:17 GMT
#3305
On April 26 2013 22:13 renfree wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote: Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?) It was more about ancient stacks, than Midas. Loda had a huge gold income off that. exactly. that was the thing keeping in the game, and the rosh fight just slammed the door on na'vi. there was no way loda could die unless it was 4+ versus him (and wisp kept bailing him out) | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3306
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3307
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3308
On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote: On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote: Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?) i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@ 10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3309
yeah.....Na'vi really need to play out of their minds or be ready for 3-4 man RP | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
April 26 2013 13:18 GMT
#3310
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DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3311
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gOst
415 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3312
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3313
On April 26 2013 22:18 mordk wrote: What is this about betting for rares? I don't get it ![]() http://dota2lounge.com/ very popular --- S4 Mag, GL HF na'vi | ||
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spacer
Netherlands2786 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3314
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#3315
No Naix or PL. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3316
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3317
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3318
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#3319
On April 26 2013 22:18 clusen wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote: On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote: On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote: Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?) i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@ 10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize. i think killing the unit instantly equalizes that | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
April 26 2013 13:21 GMT
#3320
On April 26 2013 22:18 clusen wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 22:14 rabidch wrote: On April 26 2013 22:12 icystorage wrote: On April 26 2013 22:11 Bisu-Fan wrote: Holy cow midas so OP late game... how much time does it take to pay off if you spam it every time off cooldown (not counting the attack speed but just the active?) i think you just have to get it as early as possible. i cant do the math @_@ 10 uses to pay off, so 1000 seconds to pay off 1900 gold. that said, the attack speed bonus makes it more like 6 uses You don't get 190+the gold you usually get from killing a creep, so you need more uses to fully equalize. I always feel midas is more about the experience gain (x2,5) than the gold gain - in this game NP and Sven had quite a lead in that regard. | ||
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