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On August 09 2013 10:08 JayJay_90 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:07 djaoni wrote: It's the crowd that is awful, not Ayesee. He just did what they wanted him to. WTF?! The crowd was awesome and Aysee was handling the situation brilliantly. I'd rather have teams try their best to win no matter what it takes than seeing them play to please the crowd.
Basically telling them they suck for trying their best to win more than a million is unprofessional as fuck. Show some manners.
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On August 09 2013 10:10 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:08 TheYango wrote:On August 09 2013 10:05 LittLeD wrote:On August 09 2013 10:04 UniversalSnip wrote:On August 09 2013 10:01 killerdog wrote: This can't be good advertising for dota 2 in korea though, leagues about to start and this is their first taste of dota, and they get the casters sitting there bored out of their minds writing "puck ig" on the map,
seriously, games like this are gonna be a huge turnoff for potential players... there should be a mechanism to prevent games going this way. This is DotA. 80+ minute games has been a part of this game for as long as the game itself has existed. If you take that away, you won't have DotA anymore. Actually, Icefrog's tried for years to make games shorter and NOT have these games happen. Buyback changes? Staggered TP channel times? Smoke? All of those changes were geared toward shifting the game away from these long games. HoN's solution was limiting each player to two buybacks which would probably make a bigger difference than any of those changes. Increasing passive gold or creep bounty would also work...
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I hope the russian casters dont run out of vodka at 4am
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On August 09 2013 10:10 Kishin2 wrote: Only thing that would make up for that game 2 is pudge. Meepo
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On August 09 2013 10:03 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:01 Colston wrote:On August 09 2013 10:00 nojok wrote: They should play a loser bracket match to let the team rest a bit I think.
Nope. If the players choose to play such a shit, defensive, uninteresting game they deserve to be exhausted for the third. It's their job and they seem under way more pressure than Western team does. You can't blame the players for this bad game, it's fully understandable. I'm sure if the prize pool was 20K wee would not have seen this.
Doesn't matter. You shouldn't get any special consideration for choosing to ruin entertainment value. I don't care about the fact that they played such a shit game, I just don't think they deserve anything special for it. They played a 94 minute passive game, they deserve to be exhausted for their last game... They finish it in reasonable time, hey! You won't be exhausted. (Not that any of them necessarily are, but if they are, I simply don't care).
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On August 09 2013 10:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:02 FliedLice wrote:On August 09 2013 10:02 Mensol wrote: Some say Burning is still farming. 6 slotting the courier. Shame energy booster dagon courier doesn't work  Drazerk always with cheese in mind xD
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On August 09 2013 10:11 Zealously wrote:Poll: What time is it?Evening (25) 27% MUST SLEEP (24) 26% Good morning (19) 21% Too late (15) 16% After midnight (8) 9% 91 total votes Your vote: What time is it? (Vote): Evening (Vote): After midnight (Vote): Too late (Vote): MUST SLEEP (Vote): Good morning
Morning. it's 3am, gonna "wake up" to work in 3:30hr
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THats not Zhou silly volvo
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IG secured the lategame with darkseer
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On August 09 2013 10:11 739 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:11 Zealously wrote:Poll: What time is it?Evening (25) 27% MUST SLEEP (24) 26% Good morning (19) 21% Too late (15) 16% After midnight (8) 9% 91 total votes Your vote: What time is it? (Vote): Evening (Vote): After midnight (Vote): Too late (Vote): MUST SLEEP (Vote): Good morning
Morning. it's 3am, gonna "wake up" to work in 3:30hr
That's going to be a hell of a fun day!
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The saddest part was all the retreating from fights they would have won with 90% probability.
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On August 09 2013 10:09 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:05 jigga wrote: How can you guys blame DK for losing that? The only reason they lost was because they didn't back after winning the huge roshan fight (and getting the rapier). If they had backed then everyone would be booing and whining even more. You should be thanking DK for ending such a "boring" game. I don't think so. Rapier did not make much of a difference. Burning was putting all his items on Bear, and the Bear just melts so fast. His hero's damage itself is negligible. If DK backed, we'd probably see 2-3 more rosh fights.
They won a huge teamfight, wiping IG. They could have easily done it again, on the back on black hole. DK didn't have buyback because they had been wiped recently. If this was 2009 dota 1, they would have backed and waited another 5 minutes for buyback to come up. Then the game would have gone on from then, maybe lasting another 10 or 20 minutes. Both teams could have won it from then on. Them rushing in after that big fight with buybacks down was just a huge mistake, brought about by impatience or bad judgment.
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On August 09 2013 10:05 jigga wrote: How can you guys blame DK for losing that? The only reason they lost was because they didn't back after winning the huge roshan fight (and getting the rapier). If they had backed then everyone would be booing and whining even more. You should be thanking DK for ending such a "boring" game. No.. they lost because they failed to push their advantage (after they caught Zhou top), and instead went for the Rosh, repeatedly. Their obsession with making it safe was their own doom.
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Why pick 430 these heroes ( pick snowball heroessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !!!111
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4 am here I would've had to wake up at 6 am to leave for work. I'm not even going to bother with sleeping now. No point
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On August 09 2013 10:11 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:09 Numy wrote:On August 09 2013 10:08 TheYango wrote:On August 09 2013 10:05 LittLeD wrote:On August 09 2013 10:04 UniversalSnip wrote:On August 09 2013 10:01 killerdog wrote: This can't be good advertising for dota 2 in korea though, leagues about to start and this is their first taste of dota, and they get the casters sitting there bored out of their minds writing "puck ig" on the map,
seriously, games like this are gonna be a huge turnoff for potential players... there should be a mechanism to prevent games going this way. This is DotA. 80+ minute games has been a part of this game for as long as the game itself has existed. If you take that away, you won't have DotA anymore. Actually, Icefrog's tried for years to make games shorter and NOT have these games happen. Buyback changes? Staggered TP channel times? Smoke? All of those changes were geared toward shifting the game away from these long games. I wonder, don't you feel like Buyback changes actually made late game even more unstable? It's just games don't tend to go that far anymore. It makes games in the 40-60 minute range more likely to end immediately because you can't defend high ground with double/triple buyback from a single hero. Repeated buybacks only help the defending team because the attacking team can only TP back into the fight once anyway, barring a few specific heroes.
I realize that. What I'm wondering about is in the game we just watched if say repeated buybacks were somehow put in post 60 minutes if the teams would have been more willing to attempt a win. I know that's a rather meaningless discussion since buybacks would effect the whole game but I'm just curious. Maybe there's some middle ground with buybacks.
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On August 09 2013 10:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 10:06 739 wrote: No idea why people were calling Ayesee unprofessional, he needed to do something about that boring shit and he did pretty well together with the crowd. You are getting paid for analysis, not whining. That's the rule. Ayesee is getting paid for play by play. There where no plays.
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Problem is late game is so volatile people will just megaturtle after 60 min. Late game Dota has always been extremely volatile. It's extremely hard to change that.
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On August 09 2013 10:12 tada.hts wrote:Why pick 430 these heroes  ( pick snowball heroessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !!!111
Yea! Pick TUSK!
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