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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5321
On August 09 2013 10:08 JayJay_90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:07 djaoni wrote:
It's the crowd that is awful, not Ayesee. He just did what they wanted him to.

WTF?! The crowd was awesome and Aysee was handling the situation brilliantly.

I'd rather have teams try their best to win no matter what it takes than seeing them play to please the crowd.

Basically telling them they suck for trying their best to win more than a million is unprofessional as fuck. Show some manners.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5322
On August 09 2013 10:10 LoLAdriankat wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:08 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:05 LittLeD wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:01 killerdog wrote:
This can't be good advertising for dota 2 in korea though, leagues about to start and this is their first taste of dota, and they get the casters sitting there bored out of their minds writing "puck ig" on the map,



seriously, games like this are gonna be a huge turnoff for potential players... there should be a mechanism to prevent games going this way.

This is DotA. 80+ minute games has been a part of this game for as long as the game itself has existed. If you take that away, you won't have DotA anymore.

Actually, Icefrog's tried for years to make games shorter and NOT have these games happen. Buyback changes? Staggered TP channel times? Smoke?

All of those changes were geared toward shifting the game away from these long games.

HoN's solution was limiting each player to two buybacks which would probably make a bigger difference than any of those changes.

Increasing passive gold or creep bounty would also work...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5323
I hope the russian casters dont run out of vodka at 4am
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5324
On August 09 2013 10:10 Kishin2 wrote:
Only thing that would make up for that game 2 is pudge.

Meepo
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Colston
Profile Joined November 2012
Norway279 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5325
On August 09 2013 10:03 nojok wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:01 Colston wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:00 nojok wrote:
They should play a loser bracket match to let the team rest a bit I think.

Nope.

If the players choose to play such a shit, defensive, uninteresting game they deserve to be exhausted for the third.

It's their job and they seem under way more pressure than Western team does. You can't blame the players for this bad game, it's fully understandable. I'm sure if the prize pool was 20K wee would not have seen this.


Doesn't matter. You shouldn't get any special consideration for choosing to ruin entertainment value. I don't care about the fact that they played such a shit game, I just don't think they deserve anything special for it. They played a 94 minute passive game, they deserve to be exhausted for their last game... They finish it in reasonable time, hey! You won't be exhausted. (Not that any of them necessarily are, but if they are, I simply don't care).
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu | TaeJa | Jjakji | Jaedong
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5326
On August 09 2013 10:03 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:02 FliedLice wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:02 Mensol wrote:
Some say Burning is still farming.


6 slotting the courier.


Shame energy booster dagon courier doesn't work

Drazerk always with cheese in mind xD
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5327
On August 09 2013 10:11 Zealously wrote:
Poll: What time is it?

Evening (25)
 
27%

MUST SLEEP (24)
 
26%

Good morning (19)
 
21%

Too late (15)
 
16%

After midnight (8)
 
9%

91 total votes

Your vote: What time is it?

(Vote): Evening
(Vote): After midnight
(Vote): Too late
(Vote): MUST SLEEP
(Vote): Good morning


Morning. it's 3am, gonna "wake up" to work in 3:30hr
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
August 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#5328
THats not Zhou silly volvo
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5329
IG secured the lategame with darkseer
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5330
On August 09 2013 10:11 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:11 Zealously wrote:
Poll: What time is it?

Evening (25)
 
27%

MUST SLEEP (24)
 
26%

Good morning (19)
 
21%

Too late (15)
 
16%

After midnight (8)
 
9%

91 total votes

Your vote: What time is it?

(Vote): Evening
(Vote): After midnight
(Vote): Too late
(Vote): MUST SLEEP
(Vote): Good morning


Morning. it's 3am, gonna "wake up" to work in 3:30hr


That's going to be a hell of a fun day!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5331
The saddest part was all the retreating from fights they would have won with 90% probability.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5332
so sick of DK mid zzz
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5333
On August 09 2013 10:09 DucK- wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:05 jigga wrote:
How can you guys blame DK for losing that? The only reason they lost was because they didn't back after winning the huge roshan fight (and getting the rapier). If they had backed then everyone would be booing and whining even more. You should be thanking DK for ending such a "boring" game.


I don't think so. Rapier did not make much of a difference. Burning was putting all his items on Bear, and the Bear just melts so fast. His hero's damage itself is negligible. If DK backed, we'd probably see 2-3 more rosh fights.


They won a huge teamfight, wiping IG. They could have easily done it again, on the back on black hole. DK didn't have buyback because they had been wiped recently. If this was 2009 dota 1, they would have backed and waited another 5 minutes for buyback to come up. Then the game would have gone on from then, maybe lasting another 10 or 20 minutes. Both teams could have won it from then on. Them rushing in after that big fight with buybacks down was just a huge mistake, brought about by impatience or bad judgment.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5334
On August 09 2013 10:05 jigga wrote:
How can you guys blame DK for losing that? The only reason they lost was because they didn't back after winning the huge roshan fight (and getting the rapier). If they had backed then everyone would be booing and whining even more. You should be thanking DK for ending such a "boring" game.

No.. they lost because they failed to push their advantage (after they caught Zhou top), and instead went for the Rosh, repeatedly. Their obsession with making it safe was their own doom.
tada.hts
Profile Joined March 2013
1968 Posts
August 09 2013 01:12 GMT
#5335
Why pick 430 these heroes ( pick snowball heroessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !!!111
derb
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
August 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#5336
4 am here
I would've had to wake up at 6 am to leave for work.
I'm not even going to bother with sleeping now. No point
Religion: Buckethead
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#5337
On August 09 2013 10:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:09 Numy wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:08 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:05 LittLeD wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:01 killerdog wrote:
This can't be good advertising for dota 2 in korea though, leagues about to start and this is their first taste of dota, and they get the casters sitting there bored out of their minds writing "puck ig" on the map,



seriously, games like this are gonna be a huge turnoff for potential players... there should be a mechanism to prevent games going this way.

This is DotA. 80+ minute games has been a part of this game for as long as the game itself has existed. If you take that away, you won't have DotA anymore.

Actually, Icefrog's tried for years to make games shorter and NOT have these games happen. Buyback changes? Staggered TP channel times? Smoke?

All of those changes were geared toward shifting the game away from these long games.


I wonder, don't you feel like Buyback changes actually made late game even more unstable? It's just games don't tend to go that far anymore.

It makes games in the 40-60 minute range more likely to end immediately because you can't defend high ground with double/triple buyback from a single hero. Repeated buybacks only help the defending team because the attacking team can only TP back into the fight once anyway, barring a few specific heroes.


I realize that. What I'm wondering about is in the game we just watched if say repeated buybacks were somehow put in post 60 minutes if the teams would have been more willing to attempt a win. I know that's a rather meaningless discussion since buybacks would effect the whole game but I'm just curious. Maybe there's some middle ground with buybacks.
cletas
Profile Joined June 2011
139 Posts
August 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#5338
On August 09 2013 10:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On August 09 2013 10:06 739 wrote:
No idea why people were calling Ayesee unprofessional, he needed to do something about that boring shit and he did pretty well together with the crowd.

You are getting paid for analysis, not whining. That's the rule.

Ayesee is getting paid for play by play. There where no plays.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
August 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#5339
Problem is late game is so volatile people will just megaturtle after 60 min. Late game Dota has always been extremely volatile. It's extremely hard to change that.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
August 09 2013 01:13 GMT
#5340
On August 09 2013 10:12 tada.hts wrote:
Why pick 430 these heroes ( pick snowball heroessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !!!111


Yea! Pick TUSK!
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