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Tomca
Profile Joined May 2013
168 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#741
What yo doing China? Always disrupting games :|
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#742
On August 10 2013 05:11 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with these pauses, haha?

Someone call Merlini!

also call ja rule
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#743
yeah tactical pause with his keyboard not working

....
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3242 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#744
chinese so BM ffs
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#745
On August 10 2013 05:12 DwD wrote:
What's with these fucking tactical pauses? Shittttt volvo sort that shit

What.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#746
So little level on DK's supports : (
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#747
oh my god i'm so nervous, haha.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#748
supers monitor dead i think lol
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#749
On August 10 2013 05:11 waever wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
mkay, update on how to beat Alliance since day1 topic:

Im pretty confident that there are no simple solutions and u have several options actually and all of them requires a high-level execution and sticking to the plan:

Option number 1 aka "wisp bait"

1)Ban lone druid and Nature's Prophet, let them have wisp fp.

2)Pick Chen+lifestealer next, then ban kotl in 2nd stage and some other strong antipush.

3)Pick DK, meaning ur lanes should be smtn like DK mid, Chen Jungle, lifestealer safe; or you can put lifestealer offlane, pick other strong pushing hero like Alchemist safe and a support, mbe even THD/visage.

Gameplan basically is DK farming lvl6 mid, Chen stacks big camps in the jungle, while sending good creeps to help out on the mid (harpy, satyr, tornado, mana burn creep). Alchemist farms if they have solo offlane, or go battle build with no greevils and obviously chen sending creeps in safe lane, instead of mid if they go tri. Lifestealer farms as well.

As soon as DK hits lvl6 and Chen farms with tornado his stacks, all team gather as sort of a deathball hugging team 5 and starts pushing towers like mad. Basically as long as DK has his ultimate, you push, if u don't - u farm as 5 in the jungle, wait for cooldowns and go as 5 again as soon as you can.

If Alliance would pick greedy, you can punish them by going highground at 13 mins or so. If they have more safe picks, you destroy 6 towers, buys gem, kill all wards on the map and suffocates them on their base. Vision is key here and you DO have a line up to fall back on.

Option number two AKA "we can play wisp as fp and Alliance will ban it".

1)We ban Nature's Prophet and Lone druid and ignore bulldog, like he is not there at all.

2)We completely shut down s4 mid, like absolutely destroy him.

3)We pick good fighting heroes and fight them, preferably with bounty hunter. Fight all day, everyday. Can't really name a good line up, because it all depends on what Alliance will pick - will it be cancer lancer/gyro/smtn else? There are a lot of good fighting and farming at the same time heroes, if you are a top team, you know what to pick and how to react.

Option number 3 aka "we dont have fp wisp"

1)Ban wisp + Nature's Prophet, let bulldog have his bear.

2)Pick extremely fighting line-up, super agressive face-rush style.

3)DESTROY bulldog, gank him non-stop, if he goes to jungle, follow him there as well.

4)Be break even with s4 in mid and don't feed in offlane.

You have yourself a game and its all up to you and your execution.

Overall, several key Alliance known features include:

1)Lvl 1 rosh strats and baits, depending on a line-up there are options to react as well. Against ursa - you need to insta tp mid a hero with spammable scouting ability, like firefly, powershot, poison etc and check if they use mass tp. If they do, other 4 players that wait in the fountain each with 135 gold left buys tps and goes to fight. Against other heroes its easier.

2)Massive stacking of ancients and big camps. Control it, steal it, bodyblock it like funnik did with Bounty hunter.

3)Split-push galore. Make sure you have heroes being able to deal with constant split push, buy BoT's and gank the shit out of them if they are too far out. Vision is key here as well, requires some unorthodox warding of jungle
.



why not just ban LD and pick NP...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#750
This pause probably helps Alliance more to be honest.
Once you Goblak...
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#751
Weren't there some monitor issues yesterday too?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#752
On August 10 2013 05:12 r.Evo wrote:
supers monitor dead i think lol


Why do you think that?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#753
damn the pauses!!
The Bomber boy
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#754
On August 10 2013 05:12 739 wrote:
yeah tactical pause with his keyboard not working

....

Its a good time for that pause, you can't deny it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#755
Look at pod camera, they are changing out a monitor
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#756
Looks like its a problem with one of the DK monitors.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 20:13:54
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#757
look at the booth cams guys, they're swapping monitors in DK's booth. somethings not right

this isn't really a situation where you can tactical pause
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#758
PC down? Valve disband
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#759
On August 10 2013 05:12 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 05:11 ptbl wrote:
Wow, these tactical pauses from DK


Don't be stupid.


The majority of the pauses are coming from chinese/asian teams. You don't see the western teams pausing.
Don't mind me
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
August 09 2013 20:13 GMT
#760
On August 10 2013 05:12 Jetaap wrote:
I hope they have a good reason for these pauses.


There is an admin sitting in every booth monitoring what the teams are doing. If teams pause for no reason, they will get punished. You dont pause for no reason when 2k people and the admins are watching you.
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