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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 10 2013 02:36 GMT
#5641
More kaci interviews :D
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 10 2013 02:36 GMT
#5642
On August 10 2013 11:36 Jehct wrote:
this feels like the non-brawl players reacting to wobbling during evo. you don't know enough about the game to be complaining =(

wobbling feels like an almost perfect example.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5643
On August 10 2013 11:35 Merfyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:33 zezamer wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:33 xyzz wrote:
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons

I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.


fungal growth + a - move


Fungal Growth + banes.
Stim + a - move
Fungal + ITs
Voidrays

uhh voidrays? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
goldleague
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5644
Anyone complaining that fountain hooking is a cheesy strat hasn't tried it themselves, I mean hooking alone is difficult and having that small time frame to do it makes it immensely more difficult. One could argue that it can done over and over again, but even so that tactic is like a skillshot in a sport; whether its a hole-in-one or a 3 pointer from half court it is difficult to do, i can't imagine anyone in the entire pro scene that can do what Dendi did, and that's why i think its legit, fun to watch, and fair.

Also, they could have just respect ban pudge.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5645
On August 10 2013 11:36 xyzz wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:35 IPA wrote:
For the criers: do you hear yourselves? Jesus, stop being such whining bitches. We just witnessed something insane, funny, maddening, entertaining, ________, riveting -- a real moment. Get over yourselves. Get a tissue.

What a fucking game.

It was literally none of those things. It was just pathetic.


Just like your complaining.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5646
On August 10 2013 11:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Why does it matter if it's hard... it's very low risk, you just send your pudge back home and try again. They literally tried it 30 times, has nothing to do with skill just luck.

Every time it fails, the field is now 4v5 for 20+ seconds, TF pretty much never tried to initiate or push when that happened and just jungled.
the farm ends here
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5647
Maybe more clockwork :D
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5648
Man that was some cheesy shit. O well
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5649
On August 10 2013 11:37 JerKy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:35 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:33 zezamer wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:33 xyzz wrote:
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons

I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.


fungal growth + a - move


Fungal Growth + banes.
Stim + a - move
Fungal + ITs
Voidrays

uhh voidrays? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
goldleague


Plat
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5650
On August 10 2013 11:36 nonsequitur wrote:
Why is Bulba telling everyone what they are going to ban.

Doublecrossing
Ablaij
Profile Joined June 2011
United States74 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5651
If TongFu had had a decent initiation hero then every failed fountain hook is just a 5v4 waiting to happen since NaVi just teleported one of their own heroes back to base for no reason. The only reason the fountain hooks looked so OP in this game was because TongFu's lineup couldn't capitalize if it missed.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:38:13
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5652
On August 10 2013 11:32 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:28 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.





















as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.












dont ban either hero you get what you deserve




until this crap is nerfed. this is the new DOTA meta

seriously, every pro player in the international can hit those fountain hooks they take SKILL to land but every team has that skill i believe.. i garuntee fountain hooks will be ALOT more common, until pro players catch on and ban chen every game. however likely this may happen very quickly because i garuntee tongfu will be banning one of those heroes every game from now on


Fountainhooks are pretty much legit for what like a year so far? Thing is, only Na'Vi had and probably still has the balls to try this strat in competitive dota, since it also can backfire pretty badly. You miss your hook, Pudge gets send back, your team gets initiated, 4v5 and you get teamwiped. TongFu got scared after one fountainhook connected and then played probably way too passive. Dendi and Puppey just bought enough time for Hvost to snowball hard.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5653
Korok interview was actually quite good
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5654
On August 10 2013 11:35 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:33 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:32 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:28 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.





















as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.












dont ban either hero you get what you deserve




until this crap is nerfed. this is the new DOTA meta

seriously, every pro player in the international can hit those fountain hooks they take SKILL to land but every team has that skill i believe.. i garuntee fountain hooks will be ALOT more common, until pro players catch on and ban chen every game. however likely this may happen very quickly because i garuntee tongfu will be banning one of those heroes every game from now on


Just...Just stop talking about a game you clearly know nothing about.

Bullshit like this has been happening for years in DotA.


yeah been playing this game since the version was still 5.84c and it was still played in warcraft 3 .. this is what made dota unique compared to other games .. and it has little issues towards balance since its more of a creative play .. and bullshit play is part of why dota is fun


Thank you!

"Perfectly balanced" games have no creativity and flair to them. Half the cool shit in Brood War was an unintentional bug, or have people forgotten that too? Bugs are awesome at times and at times they are intentionally left in -- like fountain hooks and creep stacking.

If it was 'overpowered' everyone would be doing it. No, it's just bullshit cheese. And that's what DotA is about, being able to do bullshit and come from behind doing it if you got the finesse.
johnnyb211
Profile Joined July 2013
1452 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5655
I just find it quite hypocritical and funny that the same people who were crying out for Kotl-Pl think fountain hooks are legit :D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:38:22
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5656
On August 10 2013 11:31 Numy wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:30 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:28 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:27 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
So... they used the Pudge hook circus to allow XBOCT to farm without a big problems after that some clutch teamfights and gg


Precisely.

And people are saying Na'Vi are killing and disrespecting esports apparently because of this.

This is fucking entertainment


Na'Vi are terrible people for using an intended in-game mechanic to win a game in a tournament where the 1st prize is 1.4 million dollars, they should be banned from all dota tournaments for life



I don't think IceFrog or the developers thought anyone would actually have the execution to pull it off. However, it does feel 100% bullshit from a player's standpoint that you outplay the other team the entire time, have a timing push with an aegis, and then lose because you lose the aegis to a borderline abuse that you honestly cannot outplay apart from 'dodging.'


Kind of funny that Maelk echoed the thought.

2009 was loving every minute of it.

Well ok, that's not true. He was pretty miffed about it for a while but the moment he realized that Na'Vi could actually win he went nuts.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5657
Woah, I had no idea Anuxi was a woman. Rad.
LeCruci
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania403 Posts
August 10 2013 02:37 GMT
#5658
Too bad there aren't many chinese teams left. It would be funny to see them first ban chen and pudge, just to get crushed by wisp
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 10 2013 02:38 GMT
#5659
New to Dota2: stupid question.

How does "fountain hook" work exactly? Pudge uses a meat hook and then Chen teleports Pudge to their base, bringing the enemy all the way to the base? Chen ends up at the home base, too?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 10 2013 02:38 GMT
#5660
On August 10 2013 11:36 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:35 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:32 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:31 Tomca wrote:
I really don't get ppl complaining about fountain hooks. It's a cool feature in game and also very double edged sword. Sending pudge home can cost you teamfights so easily. Sadly, TongFu didn't capitalise on failed hooks.

Very well deserved win, suck it haters


they're the same people who complain about cheese in BW/SC2, basically people who have never actually played a video game in their life and live to complain about how others player games



It's not a 'cheese' though. They were only doing it because they were super far behind. When playing that far behind, you have literally no risk in doing it, especially if you are on your side of the map and by a tower. The fact that Dendi hit Hao when he had an aegis was a monumental deal; that swung the momentum heavily into Navi's favor.


"no risk in doing it"

yeah except fighting 4v5 if you miss the hook, you know how little of a risk that is against a team with a farm advantage over you


No.... they did it 30+ times and had no problems from it. Just send pudge ahead with forcestaff, team backs up, nobody gets caught, pudge is back with the team within 10 sec.
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