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ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5581
That was pretty damn awesome, lots of battles throughout and a crazy finisher. Navi versus Alliance should be entertaining as all hell.

Out of curiosity when Tongfu was ahead what should they have done to try and seal the win? Was it just a matter of always avoiding the hook like the early game? I mean it makes sense but " don't get hooked" isn't really a strategy.

For people who're more familiar with the teams and their styles will this sort of thing work well against how Alliance plays or are we likely to see something very different then?
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5582
On August 10 2013 11:31 iv~nk~j wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:28 JerKy wrote:
dohohoho the amount of salt right now is so much more than the PL Alliance game yesterday

that might be because PL is just one hero among many (and not even that good one) whereas this fountain hook abuse was incredibly cheap

also i don't see how anyone can argue the fountain hook is a high risk high reward play, dendi only landed like 1 out of 5 of their fountain hook attempts and the failed attemps didn't really hurt them at all, he just kept fishing until he hit one and then it was guaranteed kill


because TF didn't capitalize on failed hooks. but sure, being in Na'vi's situation a 4v5 fight would have been SOOOOOOO favorable
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5583
People need to stop bitching about the fountain hook seriously, how about, before going "omg so stuuuupid" you try pulling that strat off, in a LAN (where the prize pool is fucking massive) against a professional DotA team, and win with it. Post vids then you can complain.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5584
On August 10 2013 11:32 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:28 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.





















as far as im concerned. this is another reason why chen should just be banned every game

or pudge too if you dont ban chen.

without the abuse of blatantly overpowered fountain hooks, chen is the bigger threat and the better thing to ban.












dont ban either hero you get what you deserve




until this crap is nerfed. this is the new DOTA meta

seriously, every pro player in the international can hit those fountain hooks they take SKILL to land but every team has that skill i believe.. i garuntee fountain hooks will be ALOT more common, until pro players catch on and ban chen every game. however likely this may happen very quickly because i garuntee tongfu will be banning one of those heroes every game from now on


Just...Just stop talking about a game you clearly know nothing about.

Bullshit like this has been happening for years in DotA.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5585
On August 10 2013 11:32 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
i garuntee tongfu will be banning one of those heroes every game from now on

Sounds like a win for NaVi to me.
crc
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:34:18
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5586
That was awesome! What do people want?!?! If fountain hooks are abusable, why has no one abused it? It's such a low percentage, high risk and spectacular play, be entertained! Navi played smart and crazy, fan for life :D
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5587
On August 10 2013 11:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:31 WindWolf wrote:
Even FGC-persons is impressed by this!

Plenty of salt over that last game hue.

What do you mean?
EZ4ENCE
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5588
On August 10 2013 11:30 misirlou wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:27 oxxo wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:25 hefty wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:20 Cubu wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:19 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:19 Cubu wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:18 blobrus wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:16 xyzz wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:15 trinxified wrote:
Why are people complaining about the hooks?

Because the idiot has killed 6 guys with this abusive one shot bulls**t?

He's mad.

his right. This is a competitive game. This type of bullshit shouldnt be allowed, especially for a competitive game like Dota 2


hey guys let's ban out all unconventional hero combos because a few crybabies on TL don't like it!

the hook and chen skill for 1 kill, dont you think that is abit unfair?

No, it isn't really that good. It also takes the pudge out of the fight (remember towers are down later in game) and he is a mid hero. So you better trade for a carry.


It's relatively low risk for extremely high reward. Pudge has no risk to die, and once towers are down later in the game any fountain hook attempts on Navis side had very very low risk since he doesn't have to go far or TP. On the other hand once it hits late game once you hit a hook you basically win. Can't fault them for using it but it's pretty broken (though admittedly hard to pull off).


Low risk? If they miss they have to 4v5 till pudge comes back, TF was running instead of actually pushing the engage


what low risk ? have you been really watching the game? putting pudge on the lineup was already ballsy .. pudge goes nowhere against other competitive hero's .. and also pudge is a all or nothing hero .. if you dont get your hooks and kills you are practically worthless the entire game ..
this is a quote
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5589
On August 10 2013 11:33 xyzz wrote:
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I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons

I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.


fungal growth + a - move
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5590
On August 10 2013 11:24 xyzz wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:23 DDie wrote:
I will bet ANY amount of money that this game from Na'VI will be elected as ''The Play'' of this year.


Haters gonna hate, go back to league of legends.

Like kids like you have any money. Keep dreaming.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5591
Low risk high reward?

How come people who don't play dota are allowed to talk
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#5592
On August 10 2013 11:33 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons

I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.


archon toilet
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5593
On August 10 2013 11:33 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:31 WindWolf wrote:
Even FGC-persons is impressed by this!

Plenty of salt over that last game hue.

What do you mean?

Salty, salty tears.
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5594
On August 10 2013 11:32 big_shark wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:31 Pseudoku wrote:
Not entertaining when they can try every 24 seconds.


Yes lets cheer for DK farming ancients for 2 hours. Makes me hard



I giggled a little
it's like people wanting more and more 4gates on pvp
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5595
I'm now an amazing fan of DOTA
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5596
People are turning Tele-Hooks into the MorriDoom of Doto
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
gLhF.Revere
Profile Joined September 2012
978 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5597
It is low risk. If the hook misses, all you need to do is back off and avoid the fight. If they chase you to your towers, all you need to do is tp back. Low risk. High reward.
Fiercegore
Profile Joined July 2010
United States294 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5598
On August 10 2013 11:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:31 WindWolf wrote:
Even FGC-persons is impressed by this!

Plenty of salt over that last game hue.


A game won on a high execution play, too godlike.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/506893/1/Fiercegore/
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5599
On August 10 2013 11:33 trinxified wrote:
I bet anyone here who would be in Navi's shoes would use that technique to have a shot to win 1.4 million dollars.

Anyone disagree?

The only portion that annoys me is that the majority is like FUCK YEAH when Navi does what they just did but when DK and iG slug it out over 90 minutes its OMG HOW DARE THEY RUIN MY ENTERTAINMENT.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#5600
If it took tremendous skill to have an IWIN button would that be okay? I mean that's not what the pudge/chen combo is but just because it's fucking hard doesn't validate anything.
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