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On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Oh it was?
Erh... fully on purpose of course! I dno, I missed Fear a bit. That was literally the only thing that could have made it more fun. And ffs I want more Burning, this international made me a fanboy.
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On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring.
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On August 12 2013 13:51 jigga wrote: To all the new fans, try PLAYING dota in the meantime! It is an incredibly fun game and if you can find a friend or two to play it with I assure you you will be 100% hooked. Not only that but playing the game will help you appreciate the game at a whole new level.
Honestly, I'd love to, but from a viewer standpoint, it was VERY overwhelming for me. The number of heroes, the number of spells, the variety of strategies, and the fluidity with which the game flows from strat to strat... Its scary. I don't like being horrible at things, but I get the feeling I'd be horrible at DotA for a LONG time.
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On August 12 2013 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: valve never intended to implement fountain hooking. it wasn't in dota 1. valve just left it there because they think didn't it was something that needed to be changed.
waitwaitwait... couldnt you fountain hook with wisp/pudge in dota1?
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring. Wow if either of those become true I'll be sad as hell. Go away. :<
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On August 12 2013 14:06 Scio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: valve never intended to implement fountain hooking. it wasn't in dota 1. valve just left it there because they think didn't it was something that needed to be changed. waitwaitwait... couldnt you fountain hook with wisp/pudge in dota1?
Yes but it is fucking way harder. By way harder, I mean seriously WAY fucking harder.
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As a side note. It really is hard to get good at Dota 2 right away. Early WC3 Dota experience is really the only reason I'm decent.
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Nosforit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:51 jigga wrote: To all the new fans, try PLAYING dota in the meantime! It is an incredibly fun game and if you can find a friend or two to play it with I assure you you will be 100% hooked. Not only that but playing the game will help you appreciate the game at a whole new level. Honestly, I'd love to, but from a viewer standpoint, it was VERY overwhelming for me. The number of heroes, the number of spells, the variety of strategies, and the fluidity with which the game flows from strat to strat... Its scary.  I don't like being horrible at things, but I get the feeling I'd be horrible at DotA for a LONG time.  Play single draft, be fearless and you will be fine.
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On August 12 2013 14:06 Scio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: valve never intended to implement fountain hooking. it wasn't in dota 1. valve just left it there because they think didn't it was something that needed to be changed. waitwaitwait... couldnt you fountain hook with wisp/pudge in dota1? Wisp/KotL yes, Chen no. Chen is confirmed as an intended change for DotA 2 however the visuals are currently bugged.
edit: KotL/Kunkka/Wisp/enemy Disruptor actually. The latter one being a bit awkward for obvious reasons. =P
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Nosforit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:51 jigga wrote: To all the new fans, try PLAYING dota in the meantime! It is an incredibly fun game and if you can find a friend or two to play it with I assure you you will be 100% hooked. Not only that but playing the game will help you appreciate the game at a whole new level. Honestly, I'd love to, but from a viewer standpoint, it was VERY overwhelming for me. The number of heroes, the number of spells, the variety of strategies, and the fluidity with which the game flows from strat to strat... Its scary.  I don't like being horrible at things, but I get the feeling I'd be horrible at DotA for a LONG time. 
I just started a few days ago and while I'm of course still horrible it helps massively with understanding what's going on in the matches. Worth it just for that imo.
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Nosforit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:51 jigga wrote: To all the new fans, try PLAYING dota in the meantime! It is an incredibly fun game and if you can find a friend or two to play it with I assure you you will be 100% hooked. Not only that but playing the game will help you appreciate the game at a whole new level. Honestly, I'd love to, but from a viewer standpoint, it was VERY overwhelming for me. The number of heroes, the number of spells, the variety of strategies, and the fluidity with which the game flows from strat to strat... Its scary.  I don't like being horrible at things, but I get the feeling I'd be horrible at DotA for a LONG time. 
Just forget about that and pick a hero and build shit ! :D. The equivalent to mass cannon -> carrier in SC. You'll still enjoy it, and you'll learn it as you play.
The heroes/items come quite quickly, but they aren't requirements to have fun with the game, IMO.
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Can't wait for the other heroes to come out for TI4. Just imagine Abyssal Lord (Pit Lord). Oh wow.
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On August 12 2013 14:06 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:05 Mataza wrote:On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring. Wow if either of those become true I'll be sad as hell. Go away. :< From what I can tell with my imperfect Chinese, the Chinese casters poked a little bit at Burning at the end to see what his plans were, but he was really close-lipped. Just FYI, though feel free to confirm with your Chinese source.
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On August 12 2013 14:06 Scio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: valve never intended to implement fountain hooking. it wasn't in dota 1. valve just left it there because they think didn't it was something that needed to be changed. waitwaitwait... couldnt you fountain hook with wisp/pudge in dota1? He is wrong, valve confirmed the fountain hook is intent fed, the visual bug is not.
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Safe to say that kicking EternalEnvy was a good idea way back when.
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On August 12 2013 14:06 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:06 Scio wrote:On August 12 2013 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote: valve never intended to implement fountain hooking. it wasn't in dota 1. valve just left it there because they think didn't it was something that needed to be changed. waitwaitwait... couldnt you fountain hook with wisp/pudge in dota1? Wisp/KotL yes, Chen no. Chen is confirmed as an intended change for DotA 2 however the visuals are currently bugged.
I'm not sure if it was 'intended' as in they were fine with the gameplay mechanics, or that the developers thought it was funny and decided to leave it in. Alot of semi-pros/pros were pretty upset with the way Na'vi won against Tongfu, and many were pretty disgusted actually (Loda in particular). I'm sure they were extremely upset when they realized that the fountain hooks were actually invisible.
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Nosforit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:51 jigga wrote: To all the new fans, try PLAYING dota in the meantime! It is an incredibly fun game and if you can find a friend or two to play it with I assure you you will be 100% hooked. Not only that but playing the game will help you appreciate the game at a whole new level. Honestly, I'd love to, but from a viewer standpoint, it was VERY overwhelming for me. The number of heroes, the number of spells, the variety of strategies, and the fluidity with which the game flows from strat to strat... Its scary.  I don't like being horrible at things, but I get the feeling I'd be horrible at DotA for a LONG time. 
To be fair its not really THAT hard, just start with some "easy" heroes like Sniper, Drow, Lich, Spirit Breaker, Ursa maybe to learn the mechanichs of the game (Last hit, deny, items, tp, etc...) and when you get enough "knowledge" out of the game you may try some other ones
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On August 12 2013 14:08 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:06 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:05 Mataza wrote:On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring. Wow if either of those become true I'll be sad as hell. Go away. :< From what I can tell with my imperfect Chinese, the Chinese casters poked a little bit at Burning at the end to see what his plans were, but he was really close-lipped. Just FYI, though feel free to confirm with your Chinese source. I assume he'll take some time to make the decision, I just heard that they said "don't assume he'll be caster full time". :3
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On August 12 2013 14:05 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring.
You could not be more wrong.
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On August 12 2013 14:06 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:05 Mataza wrote:On August 12 2013 14:03 CherryNubCakes wrote:On August 12 2013 14:01 r.Evo wrote:On August 12 2013 14:00 CorsairHero wrote:On August 12 2013 13:58 Kuroeeah wrote: wheres...why is the stream offline?...why? Oh you're here for the international 4 too? Yeah the first game is EG against DK. Fear vs Burning. Hahaha DK faced EG first last year. Was this on purpose? Pretty sure the point is that EG probably won't get to TI4 and DK seem close to disband, if Burning is retiring. Wow if either of those become true I'll be sad as hell. Go away. :< dw ill be on eg to carry them, #roadtoti4
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