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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:41:00
August 12 2013 05:40 GMT
#10341
The 'Fountain Hook' was an unintended consequence of mechanics, but Valve/icefrog liked it and kept it. It won't be "fixed", because it's now a part of the game. Like many things before it. Neutral creep stacking? That was an unintended bug from the start that was kept because it was a mechanic that was liked. Many of the 'features' that you nowadays see as a part of dota started as an unintended bug, just like fountain hooks. It won't go away, just like stacking didn't.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
August 12 2013 05:41 GMT
#10342
Can anyone tell me why Shadow Demon was hardly picked/banned this TI3? I remember seeing him everywhere recently but barely saw a peep of him all of TI3...
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 12 2013 05:41 GMT
#10343
I think Navi are like roshan. The final boss, You need to beat them to take the aegis, otherwise they'll just take, and even if you do beat them they will respawn the next year ;p
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 12 2013 05:42 GMT
#10344
On August 12 2013 14:40 sumsaR wrote:
The 'Fountain Hook' was an unintended consequence of mechanics, but Valve/icefrog liked it and kept it. It won't be "fixed", because it's now a part of the game. Like many things before it. Neutral creep stacking? That was an unintended bug from the start that was kept because it was a mechanic that was liked. Many of the 'features' that you nowadays see as a part of dota started as an unintended bug, just like fountain hooks. It won't go away, just like stacking didn't.


Do not forget mechanics even in Starcraft like muta stacking. I feel that it is actually a good thing to keep these sort of 'bugs' so long as they do not come of as completely broken.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
August 12 2013 05:43 GMT
#10345
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.
Muaziz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
August 12 2013 05:46 GMT
#10346
Gratz to Alliance for winning it all! Gratz to Na`Vi for 3 consecutive Grand Finals! And gratz to all the teams for an amazing week of Dota 2 games!
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
August 12 2013 05:47 GMT
#10347
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


Holy crap. That shit is close
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:50:40
August 12 2013 05:48 GMT
#10348
On August 12 2013 14:41 Ryder. wrote:
Can anyone tell me why Shadow Demon was hardly picked/banned this TI3? I remember seeing him everywhere recently but barely saw a peep of him all of TI3...

He isn't high impact enough.

SD is strong for a support, but he is not chen strong, or rubick strong, or naga siren strong, or nyx assassin strong.

edit: Or visage strong, or wisp strong.
Really, he is situational for his unique strengths, not for his general power as a hero.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Tunga
Profile Joined August 2011
United States765 Posts
August 12 2013 05:48 GMT
#10349
Aside from all the controversial heroes, I'm just glad to see Alliance look beatable. They won all their games with their standard draft though, but at least they look like they can bleed.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 12 2013 05:49 GMT
#10350
On August 12 2013 14:40 sumsaR wrote:
The 'Fountain Hook' was an unintended consequence of mechanics, but Valve/icefrog liked it and kept it. It won't be "fixed", because it's now a part of the game. Like many things before it. Neutral creep stacking? That was an unintended bug from the start that was kept because it was a mechanic that was liked. Many of the 'features' that you nowadays see as a part of dota started as an unintended bug, just like fountain hooks. It won't go away, just like stacking didn't.

the hook itself won't be fixed, but the visual problem is very much a bug. there's a reason why valve stopped navi from using it further, as well as only showcasing one of those hooks as a highlight. if it was such a play i'm sure they would have top10'd more fountain hooks than just one random one on mu.
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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
August 12 2013 05:49 GMT
#10351
On August 12 2013 14:48 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:41 Ryder. wrote:
Can anyone tell me why Shadow Demon was hardly picked/banned this TI3? I remember seeing him everywhere recently but barely saw a peep of him all of TI3...

He isn't high impact enough.

SD is strong for a support, but he is not chen strong, or rubick strong, or naga siren strong, or nyx assassin strong.


I feel like he was stronger when PL was more popular and making your own PL army with disruption was a big deal.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
August 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#10352
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


What the hell?
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#10353
On August 12 2013 14:41 Ryder. wrote:
Can anyone tell me why Shadow Demon was hardly picked/banned this TI3? I remember seeing him everywhere recently but barely saw a peep of him all of TI3...

the 6.78 nerf hurt his ganking ability a lot, so most teams preferred bane
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
August 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#10354
On August 12 2013 14:48 Tunga wrote:
Aside from all the controversial heroes, I'm just glad to see Alliance look beatable. They won all their games with their standard draft though, but at least they look like they can bleed.


Not just beatable...NaVi had game 3 essentially won until S4 opened the door for the double rax. If he didn't get that triple coil, at least one lane would have still been up, possibly/probably both. Not to mention his 2nd TP cancel on puppey and dendi. He WON them that game.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
August 12 2013 05:54 GMT
#10355
On August 12 2013 14:52 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


What the hell?


Volvo conspiracy to let Alliance win.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 12 2013 05:55 GMT
#10356
On August 12 2013 14:52 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


What the hell?


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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 06:00:15
August 12 2013 05:59 GMT
#10357
On August 12 2013 14:55 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:52 DDie wrote:
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


What the hell?


0.01-0.09s left



Also i just realized that s4 had no idea dendi was there, if puppey had went bottom..
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
August 12 2013 06:02 GMT
#10358
On August 12 2013 14:59 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:55 Teton wrote:
On August 12 2013 14:52 DDie wrote:
On August 12 2013 14:43 maru~ wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/aWtytgE.jpg

Oh wow.


What the hell?


0.01-0.09s left



Also i just realized that s4 had no idea dendi was there, if puppey had went bottom..


Dendi did not have a tp scroll when they lost top and bot rax. Enigma got canceled and alchem didn't use his instantly. Mistakes on Na'vi
...
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 12 2013 06:03 GMT
#10359
On August 12 2013 14:41 Ryder. wrote:
Can anyone tell me why Shadow Demon was hardly picked/banned this TI3? I remember seeing him everywhere recently but barely saw a peep of him all of TI3...

Shadow Demon is too slow imo. Disruption to set up kills are considered too slow for the game pace, as the 3?4?sec for them to come out of disruption his allies can arrive for counter initiation. You may get that one guy, but you lose whoever else setting up the gank most of the time imo.

Though it's still a extremely effective counter to Batrider initiation. Disruption will stop his lasso combo nearly every single time if your prepared.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
August 12 2013 06:10 GMT
#10360
rewatched the final. Absolutely nuts. 2 major turning points in that game woah.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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