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On August 12 2013 13:34 hyptonic wrote:
yo the point of the game is to kill the ancient.
how can u be mad for a team trying to do it fast?
You have to do it like a gentleman. First of all, never attack someone unless it's 1on1, having an advantage is simply not ok. Second, do not try to capitalize on your opponents mistakes, that's just cheesy. Third, do not use stuns, that's just lame and unfair. Lastly, do not fucking split push, attack head on. It's the only honorable thing! And as we all know, winning doesn't mean anything unless it's 100% honorable.
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On August 12 2013 13:39 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:38 Plansix wrote:On August 12 2013 13:36 toemn wrote:On August 12 2013 13:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On August 12 2013 13:33 toemn wrote:On August 12 2013 13:31 EFermi wrote:On August 12 2013 13:20 BoZiffer wrote:
Man. I honestly feel like no other event can match this hype. The International has to be the gold standard of eSports. Huh? The final game was great but what was so special about the event itself? Definitely not the introduction nor winners cemeronies. The production was better than the last 20 cheaply produced SC2 events combined. Get over it, deal with it. A new era has begun. TB and Artosis switching is only the beginning.  TB and Artosis are switching to Dota what? TB definitely. Tasteless or Artosis tweeted smth. similar. You gotta read between the lines. TB might cast. Don't count on Artosis, like fucking ever. He has a wife and kid in Korea and he loves SC2(unless GOM makes him cast). TB isn't going anywhere though, he was just venting about the MLG thing and then found out the Redbull was doing a thing the same day. TB would be great in Dota if he properly learns the game and doesn't just derp.
He knows the game well enough to play by play right now. He just needs to get up to date on the meta and everything will be good. And the best way to do that is to cast a shit ton of games.
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I'm speechless.. Couldn't ask for a better finals except Navi winning 
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On August 12 2013 13:33 pdd wrote:
Speaking of which, this is just as good, if not better than the MMA vs DRG game 7 match in 2011 in the Blizzard Cup.
Only difference is this WAS the best eSports event.
Exactly! I'll say on the same level of excitement. That's why when I was thinking the best way to end tournaments, a super tense final game will probably make the conclusion much more memorable.
Prior TIs last games were not the case, and only a few games from SC2 came to my mind with super tense last games, MMA vs DRG g7 being one of them.
Then this happens...
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On August 12 2013 13:40 MrKn4rz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:30 TanKLoveR wrote:
You Na'Vi fans are the worst, split push is done in A LOT of games, if NaVi didn't want to deal with it they could have banned NP but they didn't so as far as they were concerned that wasn't a problem. Freaking sore losers, it was an amazing game, it came down to the wire and I couldn't be happier that's how it ended. There was no cheese or game breaking bugs etc, you're just sore losers. Won fair and square. I'm Na'Vi fan and I am pretty fucking happy for Alliance. They deserved the win. Since we got the best finals that one could ask for the end result seems, at least to me, less important then ever before. I'm still not 100% convinced if this was just a dream but I guess even the best dreams aren't that good. Just trying to create some balance in this forum.
As I said earlier
I'm a Navi fan, and what I didn't like was the the game ended without a real figth. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't hate splitpush and rat-dota; I'm even the founder of Fnatic's fanclub
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On August 12 2013 13:40 Erasme wrote:
damn im retroactively super sad that tobi didnt cast it
imagine the final game with tobi screaming holy shit
Tobi imo the best caster for uberhype, was happy with LD as well tho.
Everything but Ayesee. =P
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uff stayed up for that and after that final.. i'm so pumped i cant go to bed :| holy balls need to rewatch that last game tomorrow
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Hated the way the final game ended but alliance deserved the overall victory. The grand finals was great and maybe people will finally stop doubting wether or wether not Na'vi is a top team in dota because of slumps. But i guess not.
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On August 12 2013 13:38 hyptonic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:35 trinxified wrote:On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:
1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2! Lol nice optertown. I agree with all of this. But who the hell is azarkon? speaking of azarkon..his tier predictions were actually pretty spot on iirc...he had tongfu orange navi alliance all tier 1 no?
When did he make that prediction though?
If it was when only orange navi alliance dk tongfu ig were left, then its still a testament to his contempt for chinese dota.
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Chinese teams dont need to restructure or disband....they just need to learn how to play wisp/deal with wisp, fuck banning it everytime.
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Okay guys ... what an awesome final! Now since it's over ... it's time to play some Dota 2. See ya all in game!
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On August 12 2013 13:40 Animzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:34 hyptonic wrote:
yo the point of the game is to kill the ancient.
how can u be mad for a team trying to do it fast? You have to do it like a gentleman. First of all, never attack someone unless it's 1on1, having an advantage is simply not ok. Second, do not try to capitalize on your opponents mistakes, that's just cheesy. Third, do not use stuns, that's just lame and unfair. Lastly, do not fucking split push, attack head on. It's the only honorable thing! And as we all know, winning doesn't mean anything unless it's 100% honorable.
LOL. Reminds me of the people that cry about cheese in starcraft.
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On August 12 2013 13:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:30 ballasdontcry wrote:On August 12 2013 13:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On August 12 2013 13:22 jeeneeus wrote:
How is that cheesing? When MarineKingPrime would base race every tvt with bio against tanks was that cheese? What made MKP fun is that he was super creative and would do really audacious cheese, macro play, just makes marines. He had a unique playstyle that was really unpredictable and micro that was visibly way ahead of anyone else even to a bronze player. People hate Alliance because they're boring, Bulldog only picks two heroes in 95% of his games and they almost never do anything out of the ordinary or pick none FOTM heroes. That is really, really boring Dota that no one wants to see. Alliance arent like BitByBit they're like Mvp and there's a good reason Mvp never had the fans that MKP, MMA, DRG, Nestea or MC did. wat? mvp has like the most variety in builds of any of the current terrans. in bo5 and bo7's he almost always mixes up cheese and macro play, and even with standard play he'd go mech sometimes and bio other times. comparing bulldog to mvp is a shitty comparison. if it was bulldog to innovation i'd agree, but i have to say that mvp::bulldog is flat out wrong. Okay Alliance are like those Zergs at the end of WOL who would go Infestor/Brood Lord every game in all matchups.
That's wrong and you know it, Alliance is one of a kind.
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On August 12 2013 13:40 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:38 hyptonic wrote:On August 12 2013 13:35 trinxified wrote:On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:
1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2! Lol nice optertown. I agree with all of this. But who the hell is azarkon? speaking of azarkon..his tier predictions were actually pretty spot on iirc...he had tongfu orange navi alliance all tier 1 no? i believe he said alliance and navi top 2, orange china top 3-7 which isn't too far off the problem with him is that he makes his point in a really stupid and annoying way and he likes to gloat and rub it in when he's right
My favorite was that he said SEA was the weakest scene, when Orange could have easily been in the final if they didn't throw on drafts/in game.
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On August 12 2013 13:38 Faruko wrote:
The last game was hardly in anyones pocket to be fair, it wasnt a throw... Navi just got outplayed, it was anyones game and Alliance took it thats it
If you think that Navi throwed the game you need some more Dota 2 time
Navi actually outplayed Alliance the whole game till the million dollar Dream Coil (aside from Dendi dying at Rosh). Then they loss whatever advantage they had from that moment.
There was little chance Alliance would win if the Dream Coil didn't happen.
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On August 12 2013 13:40 Animzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:34 hyptonic wrote:
yo the point of the game is to kill the ancient.
how can u be mad for a team trying to do it fast? You have to do it like a gentleman. First of all, never attack someone unless it's 1on1, having an advantage is simply not ok. Second, do not try to capitalize on your opponents mistakes, that's just cheesy. Third, do not use stuns, that's just lame and unfair. Lastly, do not fucking split push, attack head on. It's the only honorable thing! And as we all know, winning doesn't mean anything unless it's 100% honorable.
If the opposing team 4-man ganks you, say "lol, you need your team because you can't 1v1 me. sad." in all-chat.
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On August 12 2013 13:41 Unleashing wrote:
Hated the way the final game ended but alliance deserved the overall victory. The grand finals was great and maybe people will finally stop doubting wether or wether not Na'vi is a top team in dota because of slumps. But i guess not.
It defend the throne, not man fight the game. Split pushing is what you do when you get 5 manned through the mid.
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On August 12 2013 13:40 Animzor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:34 hyptonic wrote:
yo the point of the game is to kill the ancient.
how can u be mad for a team trying to do it fast? You have to do it like a gentleman. First of all, never attack someone unless it's 1on1, having an advantage is simply not ok. Second, do not try to capitalize on your opponents mistakes, that's just cheesy. Third, do not use stuns, that's just lame and unfair. Lastly, do not fucking split push, attack head on. It's the only honorable thing! And as we all know, winning doesn't mean anything unless it's 100% honorable.
You forgot the last and most important rule. None of what you said above counts if you're the enemy team. Only the guys I am supporting are allowed to win. If anyone else wins it doesn't count.
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On August 12 2013 13:42 Noxide wrote:
Chinese teams dont need to restructure or disband....they just need to learn how to play wisp/deal with wisp, fuck banning it everytime.
SEA teams are really predictable THATS their problem, they always go for the same picks, even more than Alliance (lol)
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On August 12 2013 13:37 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:
1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2! Forgot to thank me for not spamming Bisu in this thread.
Bisu is relevant to DotA now?
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