EPT[TI3] Playoffs Day 5 - Page 510
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:41 Unleashing wrote: Hated the way the final game ended but alliance deserved the overall victory. The grand finals was great and maybe people will finally stop doubting wether or wether not Na'vi is a top team in dota because of slumps. But i guess not. Psssh, you know that if they lose their next tournament/league game people are going to say that losing that G5 must have broken their spirit forever. And god forbid they make a roster change... Though that seems unlikely, given Xboct's vastly improved play (in particular that last game he played near-perfectly). | ||
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Vankuga
Panama2005 Posts
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:40 r.Evo wrote: 2) was confirmed a bug, NaVi was not allowed to do it in the GF by Valve. I agree with everything else besides 7), they did much better than people thought considering what ACTUALLY happened and what almost no one realized. 7.) is sad since TF was literally fountain-hooked out of WB. 3.) is just sad. Let's just say Na'vi got really fucking lucky to make it to the finals. I mean this with all respect, but I can't see it as any more than pure luck. But hey, luck plays a huge part in all tournaments. So long as Azarkon doesn't try to make 2.) or 3.) a point in arguing how West > East. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:42 DucK- wrote: Navi actually outplayed Alliance the whole game till the million dollar Dream Coil (aside from Dendi dying at Rosh). Then they loss whatever advantage they had from that moment. There was little chance Alliance would win if the Dream Coil didn't happen. But that's what Dota 2 is. One play could change everything. A team could be outplaying another team 90% of the time, but if the other 10% is a bigger play, then it's GG. Deal with it. | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:38 Faruko wrote: The last game was hardly in anyones pocket to be fair, it wasnt a throw... Navi just got outplayed, it was anyones game and Alliance took it thats it If you think that Navi throwed the game you need some more Dota 2 time Navi was way ahead, the gold graph is deceiving because alliance had used loads of buybacks. Alliance would NEVER split push the rax fast enough without S4's clutch ult, navi was not expecting his bb so they all tp'd together and bam. It was a mistake that cost the game, but again that's how games are won, the enemy makes mistakes and you kappatalize on it, the word ''throw'' is just stupid (unless it's EG) , the reason navi was ahead it's because alliance was also making mistakes and navi took advantage of it. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:41 Namunelbo wrote: Exactly! I'll say on the same level of excitement. That's why when I was thinking the best way to end tournaments, a super tense final game will probably make the conclusion much more memorable. Prior TIs last games were not the case, and only a few games from SC2 came to my mind with super tense last games, MMA vs DRG g7 being one of them. Then this happens... I'm thinking of that nestea vs Sc game at GSL on crossfire as well. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:41 Plansix wrote: He knows the game well enough to play by play right now. He just needs to get up to date on the meta and everything will be good. And the best way to do that is to cast a shit ton of games. I've been really enjoying his single draft video series, quality stuff even though he's obviously not the best player. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
I'm not saying it's as simple as "pick wisp, win". But it makes for very snowbally games. Even that last game, Alliance had an utterly terrible start and that's the main reason it became much closer. It amplifies your mistakes so greatly, it just seems like a bad idea even over something like a dark seer or even the naga in a high pressure situation. Na'Vi banned naga all 5 games. But I feel that naga was only as effective against Na'Vi in the UB final because Na'Vi was running oddball wisp strats (as opposed to standard and tested wisp strats). I'd have prefered if Na'Vi banned chen/wisp and Alliance banned naix/wisp. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:42 Noxide wrote: Chinese teams dont need to restructure or disband....they just need to learn how to play wisp/deal with wisp, fuck banning it everytime. Wisp was not the problem. They are/were isolating themselves from SEA and the west because they thought chinese dota is simply superior after TI2. There were a lot of things they had problems dealing with. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:43 Gevna wrote: I'm so fucked in my head right now. I wanted Navi to win so badly to mark history, still this was an epic final and gratz for those godlike move Alliance. I don't know what to think am I happy for Dota and Alliance or disgusted for Navi and the way they lose a win game. navi did mark history. 3 time grand finalists. Anyone who says that isnt ridiculously consistently badass is deluding themselves. Honestly the only reason I'm sad navi lost is that milkies will be taking all of lodas money soon enough | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:40 r.Evo wrote: 2) was confirmed a bug, NaVi was not allowed to do it in the GF by Valve. I agree with everything else besides 7), they did much better than people thought considering what ACTUALLY happened and what almost no one realized. Source? | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:45 nojok wrote: I'm still surprised alliance did not get firgure out, they must be the most studied team in the world for about 6 months and they still managed to win the whole tournament with an impressive 23 3 record. I'd even say just 2 losses TBH. That game 2 in the GF was a total giveaway. | ||
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Grettin
42394 Posts
i hope R1CH took some sick photos. Bulldog is my favorite, he deserves this so much. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:43 babylon wrote: 7.) is sad since TF was literally fountain-hooked out of WB. 3.) is just sad. Let's just say Na'vi got really fucking lucky to make it to the finals. I mean this with all respect, but I can't see it as any more than pure luck. But hey, luck plays a huge part in all tournaments. So long as Azarkon doesn't try to make 2.) or 3.) a point in arguing how West > East. They didn't get fountain hooked out of the losers bracket. That happened elsewhere. | ||
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potmilk
Canada87 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:44 Mataza wrote: Wisp was not the problem. They are/were isolating themselves from SEA and the west because they thought chinese dota is simply superior after TI2. There were a lot of things they had problems dealing with. and ACE (association of china esports) limited them from playing in tournaments with a prizepool of less than 40k. 40k USD in china is quite alot of money, and there arent that many of them, compared to say... EU, where we are blessed with many many tournaments every day. | ||
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