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Kabutomaru
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria226 Posts
October 21 2013 20:10 GMT
#521
If you want someone to NOT watch your tournie : stream it on dailymotion...
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 21 2013 20:10 GMT
#522
On October 22 2013 05:08 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:05 SKC wrote:
Twitch is bad, but if the issues this stream had in the last 15mins of this match keep happening, there is no way you can make an argument that DailyMotion is not worse. A lot of people from as over the world couldn't see shit, in any quality option.

Before it it was bad but at least watchable.

twitch is dedicated to game streaming and has been used to stream tens and tens of tournaments bringing thousands of people, unlike Dailymotion.

People are complaining about a company investing into video games streaming and comparing it to a company that is completely dedicated to it.

Also i'm pretty sure Twitch was a lot worse than Dailymotion whn it began streaming. There was 30k viewers this game and it was not as unwatchable as the few 'muricans wants to make it sound like. Otherwise there wouldnt be that many people actually watching it

As I said above, the viewership dropped by 1/4 when the lagging started, and as this thread shows many that had horrendous lag still had the stream open.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 20:13:39
October 21 2013 20:12 GMT
#523
On October 22 2013 05:10 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:08 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:05 SKC wrote:
Twitch is bad, but if the issues this stream had in the last 15mins of this match keep happening, there is no way you can make an argument that DailyMotion is not worse. A lot of people from as over the world couldn't see shit, in any quality option.

Before it it was bad but at least watchable.

twitch is dedicated to game streaming and has been used to stream tens and tens of tournaments bringing thousands of people, unlike Dailymotion.

People are complaining about a company investing into video games streaming and comparing it to a company that is completely dedicated to it.

Also i'm pretty sure Twitch was a lot worse than Dailymotion whn it began streaming. There was 30k viewers this game and it was not as unwatchable as the few 'muricans wants to make it sound like. Otherwise there wouldnt be that many people actually watching it

As I said above, the viewership dropped by 1/4 when the lagging started, and as this thread shows many that had horrendous lag still had the stream open.
The stream went offline for a short period of time.

This happens on twitch all the time. And they all drop 1/4 of their viewership when it happens.

This is a silly discussion, you don't know how many people have issues with it or not. Or if they are actively trying to improve it or they will leave it like this.
Once you Goblak...
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 21 2013 20:13 GMT
#524
luna's new glaive is quite the dps boost on single targets, especially if she has good atk speed. taken in a vacuum she's probably the most dps late game hero.

but in this game navi had stuff like blind and viper ult to counter her dps, so you see visage and wards doing a lot of work
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 21 2013 20:15 GMT
#525
For people who need their twitch tv chat fix and want to watch D2CL:

http://dota2.cyborgmatt.com/d2cl.html
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 21 2013 20:15 GMT
#526
On October 22 2013 05:10 Kabutomaru wrote:
If you want someone to NOT watch your tournie : stream it on dailymotion...

Yes that's why there were over 50k viewers. Okay. Great input.
Kabutomaru
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria226 Posts
October 21 2013 20:17 GMT
#527
On October 22 2013 05:15 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:10 Kabutomaru wrote:
If you want someone to NOT watch your tournie : stream it on dailymotion...

Yes that's why there were over 50k viewers. Okay. Great input.

Technically I was also a viewer,but could just see the result from time to time ^^
kayoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria95 Posts
October 21 2013 20:17 GMT
#528
stream was fine.
not having twitch chat was even better.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 21 2013 20:24 GMT
#529
Well Navi never really had one good teamfight in their terms. The 10/9/8/7 BKBs were all spent under bad circumstances. Credit to Speed for good teamfights. It allowed Luna to get way too farmed, while Navi's 3 cores could not get big quickly enough.
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
October 21 2013 20:24 GMT
#530
Stream was actually good, except for 10 minutes and by the end it was fine again, but for a company trying to break in the scene they needed to do better. I mean they needed completely lag free stream all the time and they failed.

I would have also liked 1080p from them to show off and basically add something more than twitch, you know to get people to notice and they didn't provide that.

Overall I got to say it was a mediocre showing by Dailymotion, they also lack some community based features like chat, lack some streaming options and the position of the buttons aren't the best.

The games themselves were interesting, I got to say this new patch is really terrible in what it did with the jungle stuff, I think we are actually going to see a lot more 5 carry games, with two dedicated junglers and 3 solo lanes, afk farm for 15 minutes with good ward positioning and then come out and win.

Na'vi really haven't been performing the best, but that is to be expected, they can't win every game and there has been a ton of games lately, possibly causing fatigue in the players.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 20:27:18
October 21 2013 20:26 GMT
#531
On October 22 2013 05:24 DucK- wrote:
Well Navi never really had one good teamfight in their terms. The 10/9/8/7 BKBs were all spent under bad circumstances. Credit to Speed for good teamfights. It allowed Luna to get way too farmed, while Navi's 3 cores could not get big quickly enough.

viper and ns are not late game carry heroes. especially with the build they went. their only chanc was splitpushing
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 21 2013 20:28 GMT
#532
Na`Vi is a bit inconsistent in their online performance even though their low point in online performance is more then often quite strong.
WriterXiao8~~
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#533
On October 22 2013 05:26 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:24 DucK- wrote:
Well Navi never really had one good teamfight in their terms. The 10/9/8/7 BKBs were all spent under bad circumstances. Credit to Speed for good teamfights. It allowed Luna to get way too farmed, while Navi's 3 cores could not get big quickly enough.

viper and ns are not late game carry heroes. especially with the build they went. their only chanc was splitpushing


It doesn't matter. The 3 cores could not even efficiently kill Speed's other heroes. Those heroes provided so much CC for Speed.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 21 2013 20:35 GMT
#534
On October 22 2013 05:30 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:26 oneofthem wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:24 DucK- wrote:
Well Navi never really had one good teamfight in their terms. The 10/9/8/7 BKBs were all spent under bad circumstances. Credit to Speed for good teamfights. It allowed Luna to get way too farmed, while Navi's 3 cores could not get big quickly enough.

viper and ns are not late game carry heroes. especially with the build they went. their only chanc was splitpushing


It doesn't matter. The 3 cores could not even efficiently kill Speed's other heroes. Those heroes provided so much CC for Speed.

point was when they are going for split pushing, they are not looking for team fights except on the rare occasion that they catch someone single'd out. speed were the ones smoking as 5 and looking for engagements while navi played tricks with kotl and prophet splitpushing
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 20:43:08
October 21 2013 20:37 GMT
#535
On October 22 2013 05:02 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:00 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:57 BillGates wrote:
What huge lags for the past 10 minutes, dailymotion is utter crap. Don't fucking host another tournament.

This was your chance to prove you are better than twitch and you ruined it.

So you're saying no tournament is better than a tournament with sometimes bad stream?

Cant argue with that kind of logic

Yes. I would prefer to have no shit, than shit.

Alternatively, i would prefer to have something thats not shit.

So you would want almost every tournament to not be hosted.

Cause Twitch is as terrible. Difference is people are used to it and stopped complaining


Twitch isn't nearly this bad, man. It is bad, but it doesn't lag at 240p


It does. I haven't been able to watch a twitch stream since July even in 240p. (and before was 50/50)

Twitch has been investing full time into streaming game services for 3+years.*
Dailymotion is just now trying to grow past it's "youtube poor clone" status, but it's a real company, even backed a bit by our government (they refused to sell it to some big company a few months ago to keep it french, it was a shitstorm...)
They are sponsoring tournaments, and probably adjusting from what they see. It's been what, 2 weeks ? Cut them some slack ! Millenium in SC2 did some cups there like a year ago, there was no real problem. Dota2 comes with a shitload more viewers. They probably don't have (yet) a lot of overseas servers (if they even have some). It should come eventually.

If you really prefer a monopoly, yeah, just continue telling things like "piss off", "why the fuck use dailymotion", "go back on twitch" etc...
I much prefer having a few companies operating streams, that way if twitch bankrupts or anything one day, we will still have something. (and own3d isn't there anymore)

On October 22 2013 05:24 BillGates wrote:
Stream was actually good, except for 10 minutes and by the end it was fine again, but for a company trying to break in the scene they needed to do better. I mean they needed completely lag free stream all the time and they failed.

I would have also liked 1080p from them to show off and basically add something more than twitch, you know to get people to notice and they didn't provide that.


You can't seriously expect a *better* service worldwide with the same amount of viewers, for a company "breaking into the scene" ?? I mean, it's unreasonable ! If a company can do that this quickly, then why has twitch been struggling to provide that for years ? :-D
NoiR
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 21 2013 20:39 GMT
#536
EE looked like a very solid if not top notch carry in those games

his game sense in game 3 was beautiful to watch
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#537
On October 22 2013 05:37 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:02 Dexington wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:00 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:57 BillGates wrote:
What huge lags for the past 10 minutes, dailymotion is utter crap. Don't fucking host another tournament.

This was your chance to prove you are better than twitch and you ruined it.

So you're saying no tournament is better than a tournament with sometimes bad stream?

Cant argue with that kind of logic

Yes. I would prefer to have no shit, than shit.

Alternatively, i would prefer to have something thats not shit.

So you would want almost every tournament to not be hosted.

Cause Twitch is as terrible. Difference is people are used to it and stopped complaining


Twitch isn't nearly this bad, man. It is bad, but it doesn't lag at 240p


It does. I haven't been able to watch a twitch stream since July even in 240p. (and before was 50/50)

Twitch has been investing full time into streaming game services for 3+years.*
Dailymotion is just now trying to grow past it's "youtube poor clone" status, but it's a real company, even backed a bit by our government (they refused to sell it to some big company a few months ago to keep it french, it was a shitstorm...)
They are sponsoring tournaments, and probably adjusting from what they see. It's been what, 2 weeks ? Cut them some slack ! Millenium in SC2 did some cups there like a year ago, there was no real problem. Dota2 comes with a shitload more viewers. They probably don't have (yet) a lot of overseas servers (if they even have some). It should come eventually.

If you really prefer a monopoly, yeah, just continue telling things like "piss off", "why the fuck use dailymotion", "go back on twitch" etc...
I much prefer having a few companies operating streams, that way if twitch bankrupts or anything one day, we will still have something. (and own3d isn't there anymore)

Azubucom will save us all
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
October 21 2013 21:01 GMT
#538
When do the VODs go up for these games, and where will we be able to find 'em?
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 21 2013 21:10 GMT
#539
On October 22 2013 05:40 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:37 Nouar wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:02 Dexington wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:00 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:57 BillGates wrote:
What huge lags for the past 10 minutes, dailymotion is utter crap. Don't fucking host another tournament.

This was your chance to prove you are better than twitch and you ruined it.

So you're saying no tournament is better than a tournament with sometimes bad stream?

Cant argue with that kind of logic

Yes. I would prefer to have no shit, than shit.

Alternatively, i would prefer to have something thats not shit.

So you would want almost every tournament to not be hosted.

Cause Twitch is as terrible. Difference is people are used to it and stopped complaining


Twitch isn't nearly this bad, man. It is bad, but it doesn't lag at 240p


It does. I haven't been able to watch a twitch stream since July even in 240p. (and before was 50/50)

Twitch has been investing full time into streaming game services for 3+years.*
Dailymotion is just now trying to grow past it's "youtube poor clone" status, but it's a real company, even backed a bit by our government (they refused to sell it to some big company a few months ago to keep it french, it was a shitstorm...)
They are sponsoring tournaments, and probably adjusting from what they see. It's been what, 2 weeks ? Cut them some slack ! Millenium in SC2 did some cups there like a year ago, there was no real problem. Dota2 comes with a shitload more viewers. They probably don't have (yet) a lot of overseas servers (if they even have some). It should come eventually.

If you really prefer a monopoly, yeah, just continue telling things like "piss off", "why the fuck use dailymotion", "go back on twitch" etc...
I much prefer having a few companies operating streams, that way if twitch bankrupts or anything one day, we will still have something. (and own3d isn't there anymore)

Azubucom will save us all


didn't azubu end up being a scam company? how do they still exist?
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 21 2013 21:16 GMT
#540
On October 22 2013 06:10 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:40 SKC wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:37 Nouar wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:02 Dexington wrote:
On October 22 2013 05:00 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Shaella wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:59 Fatalize wrote:
On October 22 2013 04:57 BillGates wrote:
What huge lags for the past 10 minutes, dailymotion is utter crap. Don't fucking host another tournament.

This was your chance to prove you are better than twitch and you ruined it.

So you're saying no tournament is better than a tournament with sometimes bad stream?

Cant argue with that kind of logic

Yes. I would prefer to have no shit, than shit.

Alternatively, i would prefer to have something thats not shit.

So you would want almost every tournament to not be hosted.

Cause Twitch is as terrible. Difference is people are used to it and stopped complaining


Twitch isn't nearly this bad, man. It is bad, but it doesn't lag at 240p


It does. I haven't been able to watch a twitch stream since July even in 240p. (and before was 50/50)

Twitch has been investing full time into streaming game services for 3+years.*
Dailymotion is just now trying to grow past it's "youtube poor clone" status, but it's a real company, even backed a bit by our government (they refused to sell it to some big company a few months ago to keep it french, it was a shitstorm...)
They are sponsoring tournaments, and probably adjusting from what they see. It's been what, 2 weeks ? Cut them some slack ! Millenium in SC2 did some cups there like a year ago, there was no real problem. Dota2 comes with a shitload more viewers. They probably don't have (yet) a lot of overseas servers (if they even have some). It should come eventually.

If you really prefer a monopoly, yeah, just continue telling things like "piss off", "why the fuck use dailymotion", "go back on twitch" etc...
I much prefer having a few companies operating streams, that way if twitch bankrupts or anything one day, we will still have something. (and own3d isn't there anymore)

Azubucom will save us all


didn't azubu end up being a scam company? how do they still exist?

Azubucom is no scam.
+ Show Spoiler +
Actual Azubu also still exists, but I think they only stream their players. It actually works really well, at least for me.
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