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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:48 Grettin wrote: Pretty sure i read 190k over all DH streams on twitter (mid series?). Also 80k Chinese at some point as well. There were also some restreams in other languages. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:46 Ramiz1989 wrote: SD became a really underrated hero, not a single team is picking him recently. Well its a hero that isn't the greatest in a dual lane. It offers just a setup, and a defensive spell. Its best suppoting ally generally cannot jungle as well. So basically you are forced to go offensive tri or dual roam, since defensive tri is kinda pointless against an opposing solo. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Anyway, I don't think it was that bad, really... e: words | ||
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goody153
44252 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:55 cecek wrote: What was a bit awkward is that Draskyll was cheering for Liquid and Alliance, while Tobi wanted Na'Vi and fnatic to win. So when they both talked during the match, each of them focused on the aspects that their favorite team was ahead. But they also both tried to sound like they're objectively analyzing the situation, so it got awkward and it seemed like they were arguing. This doesn't usually happen, often the 2 casters tend to cheer for the same team. Anyway, I don't think it was that bad, really... artosis and tasteless root for different players all the time and i never heard them fight | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:54 DucK- wrote: Well its a hero that isn't the greatest in a dual lane. It offers just a setup, and a defensive spell. Its best suppoting ally generally cannot jungle as well. So basically you are forced to go offensive tri or dual roam, since defensive tri is kinda pointless against an opposing solo. It isn't the greatest in dual lane, but he is far far from bad. Unlike many other supports he isn't straight up useless when it comes to enemy having BKB and something like that. I definitely think that it would be better than most of Fnatic supports in these games. | ||
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goody153
44252 Posts
lol .. now i feel horrible for talking nonsense :'( | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:57 goody153 wrote: artosis and tasteless root for different players all the time and i never heard them fight But they've been casting together for years, Tobi and Draskyll don't cast together often at all. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On December 01 2013 07:00 cecek wrote: SD is not good with midas and he can't farm on his own to get it. Automatically a worthless support in 6.79. What you just said is wrong on many levels, because we saw a lot of other supports being picked that aren't rushing Midas and that aren't good at farming. Unless you were sarcastic. | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:57 Ramiz1989 wrote: It isn't the greatest in dual lane, but he is far far from bad. Unlike many other supports he isn't straight up useless when it comes to enemy having BKB and something like that. I definitely think that it would be better than most of Fnatic supports in these games. I'm not saying he is bad. Its just some drawbacks, especially with the way the laning phase goes now. Personally I feel whatever SD can offer in this patch, bane can do it better. I really like this hero though, good old SD lesh | ||
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nymfaw
Norway430 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:46 goody153 wrote: I disagree i think they have their own pros and cons. In terms of mechanics and how difficult the game is then sc2 is way ahead of dota 2. In terms of popularity, complexity, team planning(yes in all MOBA games the one with the best plan wins alot), coordination with team(teamwork) and how fun the game is(i have been playing both MOBA and rts for a long time to say that MOBA is more fun since it doesnt pressure you like when you play rts but that doesnt mean its not hard) then id say say dota 2 is more fun. He was talking about the celebration... and the whole champagne thing lol | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Overall the tournament was just weird. In each set, one of the teams just looked way stronger than their opponents, and it would be the other way around the next day. The exception was probably the Liquid - Na'Vi set which was reasonably close. I'm glad that Tobi was added to the commentary, there's noone better to do the play-by-play for actionpacked or 'epic' games. Not that there were many epic games... but he at least made the 3rd game stomp SOUND exciting, even if it really wasn't. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:52 scoobex wrote: I hate the stereotype that Tobi has 0 game knowledge because it just isn't true, James just likes to be argumentative and doesn't like to admit when he is wrong. I didnt say he has 0 game knowledge I said he argued too much with the caster who has been cited by the pro players as having the best game knowledge. So dont try and sandman me thanks. | ||
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goody153
44252 Posts
On December 01 2013 07:05 Faruko wrote: He was talking about the celebration... and the whole champagne thing lol i'm sorry .. its 6 am here .. i am not thinking really hard lol i've been saying whatever i want to say | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
On December 01 2013 06:52 scoobex wrote: I hate the stereotype that Tobi has 0 game knowledge because it just isn't true, James just likes to be argumentative and doesn't like to admit when he is wrong. yea wtf is this "his game knowledge isn't up to it," as if he hasn't watched literally 1000s of games, and probably played 1000+ himself (his dotabuff is not current). Can anyone explain why someone with that background couldn't argue or discuss the game beyond surface level play-by-play ? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On December 01 2013 07:13 Chessz wrote: yea wtf is this "his game knowledge isn't up to it," as if he hasn't watched literally 1000s of games, and probably played 1000+ himself (his dotabuff is not current). Can anyone explain why someone with that background couldn't argue or discuss the game beyond surface level play-by-play ? Because he used to be worse at it and has the ocasional brainfart. People are away to critical of Tobi. Most of his comments ingame were fine, he was often right and sometimes Draskyl corrected him or just disagreed, which is expected and not really a big deal. They weren't fighting mid cast like some people implied. | ||
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