Dendi seems to be the only one in navi who plays pretty well. Some bright moves left and right from other, but a terrible coordination overall. I may lose faith, things are looking really grim 2 weeks before TI4.

Manit0u

Poland17554 Posts

June 21 2014 20:10 GMT

#5344

For some time now Na'Vi seems to be playing like they don't even care. Maybe they're trying to make the impression of being really weak before TI? Or maybe they're just burned out and need time to recover.

Procake

3803 Posts

June 21 2014 20:14 GMT

#5345

They never seem comfortable with their draft and how they play. Isn't Puppey known as the guy that gets in the other teams head, drafts weird shit and makes it work? It seems like he's just following the meta and never doing anything out of the ordinary. I haven't seem them do something new in a while. while teams like EG, C9, Alliance, Fnatic seem to do it all the time. I mean this is such a versatile patch where you can draft anything, but they seem to just be following other teams.

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

June 21 2014 20:16 GMT

#5346

On June 22 2014 05:10 Manit0u wrote:
For some time now Na'Vi seems to be playing like they don't even care. Maybe they're trying to make the impression of being really weak before TI? Or maybe they're just burned out and need time to recover.

The psychological advantage you gain from publicly playing well is far more significant than pretending to be bad.

Myrddraal

Australia937 Posts

June 21 2014 20:19 GMT

#5347

On June 22 2014 05:14 Procake wrote:
They never seem comfortable with their draft and how they play. Isn't Puppey known as the guy that gets in the other teams head, drafts weird shit and makes it work? It seems like he's just following the meta and never doing anything out of the ordinary. I haven't seem them do something new in a while. while teams like EG, C9, Alliance, Fnatic seem to do it all the time. I mean this is such a versatile patch where you can draft anything, but they seem to just be following other teams.

I dunno if it's just me, but it seems like they start off badly and then start playing better as the game progresses (except Hvost, he still seems to get out of position way too often) but usually the game is already too far gone.

Myrddraal

Australia937 Posts

June 21 2014 20:22 GMT

#5348

On June 22 2014 05:16 CosmicSpiral wrote:

Show nested quote +

The psychological advantage you gain from publicly playing well is far more significant than pretending to be bad.

On the other hand, if you did have some ideas how to play against drafts in the current meta, showing your hand too early could give other teams more time to figure out your new ideas.

Not that I think they are necessarily doing this, but it would be cool if teams were hiding some pocket strats so we see some interesting stuff come TI.

SkelA

Macedonia13069 Posts

June 21 2014 20:29 GMT

#5349

On June 22 2014 05:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:

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It should, yeah.

Makes sense then. I was wondering why Dendi didnt get lifesteal.

Procake

3803 Posts

June 21 2014 20:31 GMT

#5350

So has the pool of "OP" heroes grown so much that Mirana is no longer first-ban? Batrider, Lycan, Doom, Tinker, even Enigma and Tidehunter I see getting first-banned a lot now.

iv~nk~j

1140 Posts

June 21 2014 20:31 GMT

#5351

navi is failing with these pretty standard and usual lineups and it mostly comes down to just playing bad so i don't really see how hiding some pocket strats would explain their poor form

Manit0u

Poland17554 Posts

June 21 2014 20:32 GMT

#5352

Tree again? I thought we're past that already :/

Hate tree, unless PPD is playing it.

trifecta

United States6795 Posts

June 21 2014 20:32 GMT

#5353

On one hand, wombo combo meta should favor navi team fight execution. On the other, not a lot of xboct carries or dendi mids in the meta.

Manit0u

Poland17554 Posts

June 21 2014 20:37 GMT

#5354

Did Na'Vi really choose to go Dire again?

TomatoBisque

United States6290 Posts

June 21 2014 20:38 GMT

#5355

Na'vi is about to get pubstomped imo

Rupture+Glimpse is mean

Myrddraal

Australia937 Posts

June 21 2014 20:38 GMT

#5356

On June 22 2014 05:31 iv~nk~j wrote:
navi is failing with these pretty standard and usual lineups and it mostly comes down to just playing bad so i don't really see how hiding some pocket strats would explain their poor form

I know Wisp and Treant are popular supports, but is Wisp + SF really a standard mix?

Edit: It feels to me like they haven't been putting much attention to creating space for Hvost, and his farm has definitely suffered from it. Like I said before I don't think he has been playing great either but still, their drafts or perhaps their lanes haven't seemed that standard to me.