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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 21 2014 19:01 GMT
#5321
yep teams really need to pick carries(sven,tiny, ember) that rape meepo badly in 1v1 and teambattle .. but first the teams who will do that needs to really outdraft fnatic and not give everything they want
this is a quote
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
June 21 2014 19:07 GMT
#5322
How do you even deal with the Tiny stacking for mid? Sure, you could go and try to ward, but if the entirety of Fnatic is there, they can get EASY first blood with their line-up. It's insane.

That stacking was one of the many things which gave Xcalibur so much space and just such an advantage.
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1456 Posts
June 21 2014 19:21 GMT
#5323
Wrong pick? What?
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
June 21 2014 19:22 GMT
#5324
On June 22 2014 03:32 Ana_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 03:27 hooahah wrote:
also I don't like how much the casters discredit the rest of Fnatic. Sure Excalibur farmed like a madman but Fly&Hanni pretty much triple/quadruple stacked the entire jungle for him.

last thought: insteaf of doing his usual of feeding first blood, Trixi actually GOT first blood this time.

This game reaaaaaaally isn't one to judge the 'new' Fnatic by just yet.


They gave massive credit to Hann1s play, especially on earthsaker all the time. Also, they commented on how Flys skywrath is ban worthy. Does not sound discrediting at all to me.


Yeah and I have heard them say multiple times over the last couple of days how they think Fnatic are the most consistent team for stacking camps and making space for their carry.
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 21 2014 19:23 GMT
#5325
On June 22 2014 04:22 Myrddraal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 03:32 Ana_ wrote:
On June 22 2014 03:27 hooahah wrote:
also I don't like how much the casters discredit the rest of Fnatic. Sure Excalibur farmed like a madman but Fly&Hanni pretty much triple/quadruple stacked the entire jungle for him.

last thought: insteaf of doing his usual of feeding first blood, Trixi actually GOT first blood this time.

This game reaaaaaaally isn't one to judge the 'new' Fnatic by just yet.


They gave massive credit to Hann1s play, especially on earthsaker all the time. Also, they commented on how Flys skywrath is ban worthy. Does not sound discrediting at all to me.


Yeah and I have heard them say multiple times over the last couple of days how they think Fnatic are the most consistent team for stacking camps and making space for their carry.

hey i'd argue that alliance is better at that ... of course that was the case of last year :\
this is a quote
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
June 21 2014 19:27 GMT
#5326
On June 22 2014 04:23 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 04:22 Myrddraal wrote:
On June 22 2014 03:32 Ana_ wrote:
On June 22 2014 03:27 hooahah wrote:
also I don't like how much the casters discredit the rest of Fnatic. Sure Excalibur farmed like a madman but Fly&Hanni pretty much triple/quadruple stacked the entire jungle for him.

last thought: insteaf of doing his usual of feeding first blood, Trixi actually GOT first blood this time.

This game reaaaaaaally isn't one to judge the 'new' Fnatic by just yet.


They gave massive credit to Hann1s play, especially on earthsaker all the time. Also, they commented on how Flys skywrath is ban worthy. Does not sound discrediting at all to me.


Yeah and I have heard them say multiple times over the last couple of days how they think Fnatic are the most consistent team for stacking camps and making space for their carry.

hey i'd argue that alliance is better at that ... of course that was the case of last year :\


Their words not mine , though I must say they are definitely good at it.

Right now I think Alliance is the best at warding enemy camps haha, so many games lately I have seen the other teams jungle and ancient warded far more than I ever have before.
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
June 21 2014 19:27 GMT
#5327
tidehunter sucks, don't like puppey constantly picking him up
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
June 21 2014 19:37 GMT
#5328
standin.banshee_creep
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 21 2014 19:37 GMT
#5329
On June 22 2014 04:27 spacer wrote:
tidehunter sucks, don't like puppey constantly picking him up

it's EG and C9 influencing the meta of this
this is a quote
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 21 2014 19:41 GMT
#5330
On June 22 2014 04:37 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 04:27 spacer wrote:
tidehunter sucks, don't like puppey constantly picking him up

it's EG and C9 influencing the meta of this


The west just needs to play tidehunter like the east does. Eastern teams have a very good record with tidehunter.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
June 21 2014 19:44 GMT
#5331
So it's a couple weeks until TI and Na'Vi are still playing like crap.

Are they even practicing?
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#5332
On June 22 2014 04:44 PoP wrote:
So it's a couple weeks until TI and Na'Vi are still playing like crap.

Are they even practicing?

Of course they are trying their best.

The question is, will it be enough ? the competition is extremely scary in the western scene right now. It seems like you can't name a definite top 3 teams. Everybody is taking of series out of one another.

This year there is no alliance or navi that wrecks everyone.

In the eastern scene though Newbee is clearly ruling out of the result this past month.
this is a quote
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
June 21 2014 19:52 GMT
#5333
i didnt see the games navi played yesterday but it seems they just dont feel comfortable with their picks imo or the competition is simply too strong
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Keardan
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands527 Posts
June 21 2014 19:53 GMT
#5334
On June 22 2014 04:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The west just needs to play tidehunter like the east does. Eastern teams have a very good record with tidehunter.

What's the difference in how they run Tidehunter exactly?
If I'm asking noob questions, it's because I'm a noob, not because I'm being sarcastic.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 21 2014 19:55 GMT
#5335
On June 22 2014 04:53 Keardan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 04:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The west just needs to play tidehunter like the east does. Eastern teams have a very good record with tidehunter.

What's the difference in how they run Tidehunter exactly?

I think from what i have seen tidehunter has been utilized in the west better than the east actually.

Although the eastern scene loves the doom meta.
this is a quote
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
June 21 2014 19:58 GMT
#5336
On June 22 2014 04:52 Sloke wrote:
i didnt see the games navi played yesterday but it seems they just dont feel comfortable with their picks imo or the competition is simply too strong


I don't think the competition is that much stronger than a couple months ago when they were beating teams like Cloud 9 and Alliance most of the time.

All these teams got definitely better but Na'Vi also got way worse at pretty much everything.
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minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
June 21 2014 19:59 GMT
#5337
That Aegis steal.
Believe! Let's hope Puppey and his gang are fooling around / saving strats
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1456 Posts
June 21 2014 20:01 GMT
#5338
And xboct feeds again.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 21 2014 20:04 GMT
#5339
Only Na'Vi could conceivably come back from a game like this.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
June 21 2014 20:06 GMT
#5340
does doom disable helm lifesteal?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
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