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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 21 2014 21:14 GMT
#5381
5 daggers aggro game
this is Na'Vi we all love and admire
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
June 21 2014 21:15 GMT
#5382
Why pros have such a hard time using Silencer? Trixi ytd and Solo today
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
June 21 2014 21:35 GMT
#5383
Oh my god Batrider AND Doom, GG
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
June 21 2014 21:36 GMT
#5384
If this were a game between the chinese I would've called gg already. Getting Doom and Bat is just bonkers.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 21:37:56
June 21 2014 21:36 GMT
#5385
Global Silence is one of the hardest ults to use properly, much harder than RP, Blackhole etc.
The problem is that it doesn't offer any direct cc/disable.

How to use Global mostly depends on if your team has a reliable form of initiation. If you do, then ideally you use Global immediately following your team's initiation to prevent the opponent from being able to react and you win the fight within that duration or at least eliminate a key target.
If your team doesn't have a form of initiate, then it's biggest use is as a counter-initiation tool. This is where it gets tricky because you can't always anticipate when the enemy is actually fully committing to a fight. Use it just a half second too early and the enemy simply walks away and waits out the duration. Use it too late and the enemy has already used all their important cds and you've already lost the fight. The difference between a game-changing global and a useless one is often less than a second. With defensive Globals, even if you use it at the right time to disrupt an enemy initiation, unless you have other heroes to properly control positioning, the enemy can still just walk away and make your ult look useless.
And that's just for full 5 on 5 engagements. What if they are just trying to pickoff your carry. Do you use Global to save him? Ok so you save your carry but now the enemy still has all their important cds to take a big objective like a tier3 push or Rosh. What if BKB's enter the game? Do you wait for the bkb to pop Global or do you just use it anyway? The timing already has to be so precise, the cd is huge, and there are so many applications to its use that Global is perhaps the least straightforward spell to use in the game.

It doesn't excuse some of the awful Global timings in that last game though. When your team is caught in a 3 man Blackhole, there shouldn't be any hesitation at all from Solo. But in general, Global usage has a huge amount of variables to consider.
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 21:39:30
June 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#5386
This is going to be like Empire vs. C9 Game 3 at Dreamhack, Empire learnt it was not wise to give away Doom and Batrider that day.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
June 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#5387
Skywrath !
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 21 2014 21:39 GMT
#5388
People should check if he was stunned or something during the hole before flaming Solo for not using Global Silence.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 21:42:19
June 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#5389
On June 22 2014 06:39 Kishin2 wrote:
People should check if he was stunned or something during the hole before flaming Solo for not using Global Silence.


Yeah, that was what I was unsure about. He was 2 screens away from the Blackhole and his attention might have been on a closer enemy. Unless his screen was directly on the blachole and he wasn't disabled, there is no way he could react instantly.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
June 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#5390
Doom & Bat, sick
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#5391
Skywrath Mage is so dumb early game, goblak literally died 2v1 trying to deward
rip
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
June 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#5392
holy crap that stomp by xboct !
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#5393
Thought Funn1k was dead there, really well played.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 21 2014 21:52 GMT
#5394
On June 22 2014 04:53 Keardan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 04:41 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The west just needs to play tidehunter like the east does. Eastern teams have a very good record with tidehunter.

What's the difference in how they run Tidehunter exactly?


They don't start gush and their tidehunter actually gets farm for starters.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 21 2014 21:53 GMT
#5395
Even Valve is betting against RoX at this point.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 21 2014 21:54 GMT
#5396
From what I remember, the eastern teams get heavy shell/smash early to just be super obnoxious in lane and farm ancients

also LMAO SOLO
rip
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 21:57:26
June 21 2014 21:57 GMT
#5397
Ayesee never ceases to amaze me
dar storm aspect
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
June 21 2014 22:07 GMT
#5398
After the first time Solo DC, he said lightning struck his house. Now yol is repeating it but no one seems to know what's up with him for sure
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
June 21 2014 22:08 GMT
#5399
Tidehunter with some farm early game can really wreck the enemy, getting a faster blink can really turn the tide (pun intended) of the match
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-21 22:09:37
June 21 2014 22:09 GMT
#5400
Did I understand that correctly? Solo is without the internet because of the lighting?

EDIT: Well, that sucks.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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