[Hero] Gyrocopter - Page 6

On February 03 2015 16:13 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I've been spamming offlane gyro for the past week. Basing my build after Slasher.

Opening with 2x gaunlet, tango, ring of protection. Contest rune is easy with barrage and teammates. But back off if 3+ enemy shows up.

In lane just leech and try to last hit. If they try to zone you just rocket barrage. Camp runes when profitable.

Build tranquil boots, and rush bottle. Then rush urn and participate in fights. Gyro has high armour but low hp, so urn will almost heal him full. In fights just stay back and time your ultimate, missile on their brawlers whom have to stay to deal damage. I think magic wand is great pickup too. Go ham when they're weak, because going in too eagerly with barrage in team fight is too dangerous.

After that is where I want to make a case of getting an orchid. It's incredible utility and very often your orchid timing is so fast they haven't got time to buy bkb. Eul is quite Meh IMO. Eul comes in weird components and neither help with your damage, and cyclone is only useful for solo kills, and even then the enemy can react if they see you as you have to lay down the rocket first before Eul.

Orchid is always strong, atk speed and damage, mana regeneration, silence! In teamfight now just play like warlock. Wait in back and cast your chaotic offerings and upheaval (your ultimate ) and silence one guy and missile and urn the other. Don't dive the backline unless to orchid someone important. Fight with your team in front line, see who's beating on your teammates and barrage his face off and missile him to force him back.

I would recommend against transition to dps. Keep playing utility, i rush eblade alot, and i also get Eul or force, or sheep. To dps gyro you need both damage and survival, so Mkb,bkb,helm to start. You will never catch up that way. Bear in mind you been maxing out missile and barrage, and you can't flash farm dps items at this point. You will just keep fighting with your 50cd ultimate and continously buy utility

This is unranked. My ranked is 4.1k so take it with grains of salt.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1208456546

On February 04 2015 19:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I agree with most of what you said, but I really don't like your eblade itemization. It seems gimmicky, as eblade does on most heroes. I see no reason not to transition into damage, you are right that you can't flash farm well without flak, but you aren't getting stats over flak, so you will naturally get it from teamfights and pickoffs. Even 1 level of flak lets you farm pretty well in conjunction with rocket barrage.

I think another HP item apart from the urn is probably required, so maybe the bkb after? I never tried orchid, but it sounds like it could be okay. SNY comes to mind to give you more chase and mobility in fights, as well as the obvious tankability. When I carry with him I generally favor the casual yasha anyway for increased farming efficiency so I don't think SNY is too bad in place of the bkb for getting hp early on.

On February 05 2015 01:44 DucK- wrote:


I disagree with the transition to DPS. For Gyro to be relevant DPS wise, he needs both survivalbility and damage. The former is usually from BKB. The latter is where your DPS items like MKB and Butterfly comes in. The problem with transitioning to DPS is that you can't achieve both at a good timing. You are playing catch up from the start, as you are not allocated resources. When you get your BKB, you have no damage to hurt the enemy. Your usefulness comes just from your spells. When you finally add your first damage item to it, it is not painful enough to be a threat then due to enemies' having more HP/armour/mobility etc. As such, I believe getting utility items would be a better choice.

In the scenario where your mid/offlane do not soak up much farm (Nyx, Puck, Clock etc), then perhaps you could make that transition since there are resources available for you to do so.

On February 07 2015 08:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Well what utility items would you suggest? You don't go mek on gyro and even if you did, it would come pretty late I'd imagine unless you went it over euls, which might not be horrible. But after that for a 4th/5th item, what do you get utility wise that wouldn't be just getting an item for the sake of continuing to be utility, pipe is situationally useful, crimson guard has a timing peak and isn't really a gyro item, eblade might as well be a butterfly, I guess atos could be an okay followup since it gives nice HP with gyro's high armor and gives you a bunch of int with a nice slow, but that still leaves other slots to fill which I can't see why not to go DPS or survivability. What items would you propose viable past 30 minutes that qualify as utility? That's a genuine question because I definitely can't think of anything.