EPTi really want to face some of these refresher advocates in pubs maybe sometime in tlih.
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
i really want to face some of these refresher advocates in pubs maybe sometime in tlih. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
But you guys put it in such a way that you are willing to go rapier every game if it comes to that stage. Chances are you are going to balls down and opt for a safer damage item as your 6th item, of which it is likely to be Daedalus. For this case, there is no doubt rfo is superior because all daed does is marginally increasing your already high damage output. The impact is not major. Meanwhile rfo gives you double flak/call down/satanic/bkb. | ||
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Danzo
2820 Posts
On June 11 2014 13:42 synapse wrote: I gave up on winning with this guy when I got him for 10 hero challenge... hehe I'm 2k level player that's having a bad time with him right now. At least with the daily hero challenge, it's teaching me hero's I don't play often. But man he's hard to play at my level.. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
Just curious if that only really worked because everyone in the game was bad or if it's anything close to a legitimate strategy | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 20 2014 09:33 GTPGlitch wrote: Does anybody ever build aghs on gyro? A couple days ago I had a bit of a rough start offlane with a tusk support (T_T) against sniper/jak/clock (dafuq) trilane, and i found aghs really helpful because I was able to somewhat catch up in farm by staying in lane while the rest of my team fought while still contributing with ulti anywhere. Also really helped because one of the enemy heroes was Naga, and both calldowns hitting the illusions was a kill so it basically shut down the illu splitpush. Just curious if that only really worked because everyone in the game was bad or if it's anything close to a legitimate strategy Always found it underwhelming though, even when I'm not playing a carry role. I'm not sure of the timing for Agha if you are not the farmer, so I dunno how tanky naga illusions will be and its effectiveness against her. Still in a non carry supportish role, I probably get items with actives like halberd atos diffusal orchid, rather than pretend to contribute with insignificant secondary DPS. | ||
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 20 2014 22:57 Checkm8 wrote: Can u use Aghs first offlane Gyro in a global ganking strat? Just askin'... I guess so but why would you do it when he can't really offlane there, and him being global requires you to first build an item. | ||
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
United States976 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
I did get it today in a pub as roaming support gyro http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/846231287 | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On August 20 2014 09:33 GTPGlitch wrote: Does anybody ever build aghs on gyro? A couple days ago I had a bit of a rough start offlane with a tusk support (T_T) against sniper/jak/clock (dafuq) trilane, and i found aghs really helpful because I was able to somewhat catch up in farm by staying in lane while the rest of my team fought while still contributing with ulti anywhere. Also really helped because one of the enemy heroes was Naga, and both calldowns hitting the illusions was a kill so it basically shut down the illu splitpush. Just curious if that only really worked because everyone in the game was bad or if it's anything close to a legitimate strategy No it isn't a bad idea. The problem with gyro is that while he can throw out a ton of damage he takes some time to apply it and in the earliest engagements gyro is very squishy. I prefer not to use Aghs because sometimes your team needs you for more than call down. When my team is clearly winning the laning phase I go for butterfly to cement the lead provided but if I get a sense that my opponents will overtake us before I can safely farm up eagle song I go for Sange and Yasha (SnY). The overall increase in effective HP is much better with SnY while I'm still able to provide respectable Flak damage. I have been able to help my team hemmorage against better snowballers by having a more balanced fighting power that BKB first doesn't provide. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
Nobody good has yet to provide any proof of a worthwhile alternative. | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 25 2014 11:03 Ver wrote: Why go anything besides the hotd bkb mkb bfly satanic that every top player universally goes (order interchangable)? Nobody good has yet to provide any proof of a worthwhile alternative. For a carry gyro with farm allocated to him, yea there is little reason to deviate from this build because there's really lack of alternatives. Probably could rush a SB considering how good it is in pubs. I never ever saw a reason to follow the route if I'm not given farm as a carry (ie. Supportish/roam gyro). Same as the arguments I made in the mirana thread, you are better off getting items with actives, rather than pretending to hurt with flak damage and playing catch up from the start. | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
Of course this means he can't Flak down the entire enemy team at 40 minutes, but that wasn't going to happen anyway. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
Is it worth considering a linken sphere over black king bar? Particularly with the BKB nerf in the new patch where you can't get above 5 seconds spell immunity once you use it too much. As far as I can tell the numbers give you the same additional damage due to the +15 agility, plus armor plus hp and mana regen plus attack speed so from a damage and stats perspective its an upgrade. Or is that complete spell immunity too important? | ||
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Terrorbladder
2718 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On October 03 2014 14:54 DropBear wrote: Ultra noob question. Been struggling with this guy for my all hero challenge. Is it worth considering a linken sphere over black king bar? Particularly with the BKB nerf in the new patch where you can't get above 5 seconds spell immunity once you use it too much. As far as I can tell the numbers give you the same additional damage due to the +15 agility, plus armor plus hp and mana regen plus attack speed so from a damage and stats perspective its an upgrade. Or is that complete spell immunity too important? Linkens is not a substitute to bkb. They serve different purposes. Gyro in general needs spell immunity to do his thing. Linkens on heroes like morph/weaver/puck make what is already hard to effectively disable even harder. On gyro it serves no purpose except if there is a very crucial spell that kills you, like roar/doom. Even in that case, you probably won't be getting an early linkens. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19346 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 03 2014 17:52 icystorage wrote: I like your RFO idea duck, might try it Even more viable now, since you can't rebuy bkb. Suddenly, 185 cd 8 second bkb. | ||
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