EPT[Hero] Troll Warlord - Page 10
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Belisarius
Australia6225 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On December 16 2014 21:53 Laserist wrote: Is this hero fixed now? I mean the fervor stack issue. with 6.83 shud be | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
I am living in a dream. It took so long for them to fix this very crucial issue for my beloved troll. I can pick you every game from now on. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Troll Warlord Fixed Fervor stack count being 1 stack too slow ye boi | ||
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Varth
United States426 Posts
I've been pretty picky about when I pick em though, generally against a weak safelane like spec ill pick troll and grab a support to duo. The few times I do this with a void in my safelane its just too strong. You just hit ult whenever chrono goes up and the void can kill anyone that's not ogre | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8908 Posts
On December 17 2014 03:34 Comeh wrote: Well, 4 stacks of fervor maxed + troll ult is 316 AS, you have 65 AS at level 16 with stats, and so its not inconceivable to be breaking the 400 AS barrier, but not that big of a deal IMO. more attacks more bashes more bashes more rage more rage more gg I like it. | ||
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deadmau
960 Posts
On December 17 2014 03:34 Comeh wrote: Well, 4 stacks of fervor maxed + troll ult is 316 AS, you have 65 AS at level 16 with stats, and so its not inconceivable to be breaking the 400 AS barrier, but not that big of a deal IMO. What 400 AS barrier is this? Old barrier was 500 AS. New barriers are 600 AS, +500 AS or 500 IAS. edit: 500 IAS not 500% IAS | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
i think this new 600 attack speed barrier is only ever applicable to wr/ursa/troll's team add a beastmaster to trolls team too maybe or bloodlust/alacrity/wisp tether when u talk about AS just do conversions into 1.7 bat coz thats how AS is defined 1.7 bat means if u had exactly 0 IAS and 0 agi it wud take u 1.7seconds to hit a guy basically every hero has 100 starting AS (with 0 agi) and every agi adds 1 AS dota2 is a bit weird coz it does bat conversion in attackspeed metric for u when u change bat from like range to melee (i dont think it shud do this) so ranged troll is gonna have 480 AS which is same as 380 IAS with fervor/ulti he has 490 AS written in dota2 when he''s melee coz less bat for w.e reason... also troll always more than broke the attackspeed barrier even with 0 items it used to only do calculations for 1.7 bat in early beta but then valve messed it up 500 to 600 barrier simply means any hero that can get there will have 20% more dps/attacks than he did before so theoretically slark can cap to 352 passive stacks now he can get 20% more which is 423 | ||
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deadmau
960 Posts
all i wanted to do was list out pretty much all the various naming conventions people use. [AS] or [+AS] or [IAS]. I could care less which you use or go by cause you know pretty much all there is to know, but people use all sorts of silly stuff, i wanted to list them all and for no good reason i suppose, whoops. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On December 17 2014 18:39 deadmau wrote: yo beesa i have nothing bad mad respect calm down bro, take a chill pill. as you can see at the end it says +500 AS or 500 IAS (should not have had a % there). i'd never doubt you lol. i misunderstood him, that's all. all i wanted to do was list out pretty much all the various naming conventions people use. [AS] or [+AS] or [IAS]. I could care less which you use or go by cause you know pretty much all there is to know, but people use all sorts of silly stuff, i wanted to list them all and for no good reason i suppose, whoops. Pretty sure he's referring to my post, which to be fair I haven't read anything on AS for a long time and I don't retain that information for more than 2 hours. Completely forgot about the 100 starting attack speed so yeah this change will actually impact him quite a lot because of his lower BAT at higher levels (and with wisp, which we've seen ab it of). | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On December 18 2014 01:26 Comeh wrote: Pretty sure he's referring to my post, which to be fair I haven't read anything on AS for a long time and I don't retain that information for more than 2 hours. Completely forgot about the 100 starting attack speed so yeah this change will actually impact him quite a lot because of his lower BAT at higher levels (and with wisp, which we've seen ab it of). i was lol | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Hey, wasn't that far off, just forgot about the 100 base AS which is obviously a big deal. Though dota would be really hilarious if they removed that and everyone started attacking with 20 AS, everyone just attacking like they are attacking an enchantress as Tiny | ||
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deadmau
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paper
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UWZfWWX.png) you can watch one of the games from the other side here lmao http://www.twitch.tv/meepodota/b/605124892 the deso and eagle are trolly purchases, but ive been picking up blink a LOT :D the rust is real tho after the holiday break | ||
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govie
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paper
13196 Posts
I've been mostly offlaning him lately and skipping the hotd/bkb in favor of blink dagger. Also there is a drastic reduction in the number of PAs so I don't have to MKB anymore which is nice :3 | ||
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