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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 22 2013 12:05 GMT
#7501
On March 22 2013 20:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 19:59 TOCHMY wrote:
On March 22 2013 19:59 Dead9 wrote:
u don't firefly over them until you have enough stacks to hit lv6


Then, how does one fully stack 1 camp 6 times?

The same way you stacked it the first time.


as I said, :D match id or it didnt happn
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 12:17:30
March 22 2013 12:13 GMT
#7502
Look up my dotabuff for any batrider game.

Edit: www.dotabuff.com/matches/129924773
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#7503
On March 22 2013 21:13 Firebolt145 wrote:
Look up my dotabuff for any batrider game.

Edit: www.dotabuff.com/matches/129924773


thank you sir, will watch when I get home
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 13:37:51
March 22 2013 13:37 GMT
#7504
nvm
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 22 2013 16:56 GMT
#7505
Considering how awful it is trying to get a radiance on spectre I was wondering what people thought was the best farming item for her to get? I was considering mjolnir simply because desolate does pretty crazy damage with good attack speed, but I was unsure.

I mean Midas honestly makes the most sense IMO, but the drawbacks seem to hurt her more than other carries I would consider it on.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 17:49:43
March 22 2013 17:48 GMT
#7506
Radiance is still pretty much the only suitable farming item.

Generally you try to snowball into a Radiance off of early/midgame teamfighting items (some combination of Urn, Drums, Aquila, Yasha, Diffusal) rather than just rushing out a Radiance. If you maintain a good tempo, it's not actually that hard to slingshot your way into a Relic off a good fight followed by a tower or two.
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skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
March 22 2013 21:42 GMT
#7507
Aghanim rush on beastmaster is cool too
Aghanim rush on night stalker isn't retarded either, urn phase boots into aghanim is legit (even if it's situational)
Invoker aghanim first big item can be cool
Puck too (NAH JK SON)

I don't know what you mean by "aghanim rush" but there are a lot of heroes who get it as their first big item (maybe after blinkdagger).
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 22:01 GMT
#7508
On March 23 2013 06:42 skirmisheR wrote:
Invoker aghanim first big item can be cool

Invoker Agha isn't good as a first item because the Agha effect only becomes significant at the higher ranks of Invoke, the additional spells you're invoking aren't that strong until you have enough ranks in the corresponding orbs, and without other items you don't have the mana to support casting all of your spells.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
March 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#7509
Force staff is the minimum you should have before going for the Agh's on Invoker.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#7510
Firebolt is referring to napalm stacks, he himself can't stack camps more than twice usually
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
March 22 2013 22:38 GMT
#7511
If he can stay connected to the game for more than the time it takes to stack a camp that is.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 22 2013 23:06 GMT
#7512
Spirit breaker and ogre magi ball out of controll if you go aghs first
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 22 2013 23:32 GMT
#7513
On March 23 2013 06:42 skirmisheR wrote:
Aghanim rush on beastmaster is cool too
Aghanim rush on night stalker isn't retarded either, urn phase boots into aghanim is legit (even if it's situational)
Invoker aghanim first big item can be cool
Puck too (NAH JK SON)

I don't know what you mean by "aghanim rush" but there are a lot of heroes who get it as their first big item (maybe after blinkdagger).

I'm actually a big proponent of an early aghs on NS, like, maybe not first, but after urn and like BKB, its a great choice
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#7514
Agha NS is situational. The main draw for it is in ganking/map control, so in the type of game where you need to exert map control rather than teamfight power, Aghanim's is good. But for straight-up teamfighting power, AC vastly outperforms Aghanim's.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
March 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#7515
Probably should consider BKB before AC.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 22 2013 23:50 GMT
#7516
On March 23 2013 08:34 TheYango wrote:
Agha NS is situational. The main draw for it is in ganking/map control, so in the type of game where you need to exert map control rather than teamfight power, Aghanim's is good. But for straight-up teamfighting power, AC vastly outperforms Aghanim's.

Ehh.. Sorta situational there, I think Aghs can be a big deal in teamfights once second night hits and lasts forever, because its basically night all the time, and the enemy team can't see that far, meanwhile you have full vision unimpeded by highground or trees, which is pretty strong in its own right.
But as far as just straight up numbers strength, yeah, AC is great in teamfights (and for pushing!)
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 23:58 GMT
#7517
On March 23 2013 08:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Probably should consider BKB before AC.

I was speaking to Shaella's item choice post-BKB.

AC first is indeed awkward.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
March 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#7518
Right, missed that.
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JumboJohnson
Profile Joined December 2011
537 Posts
March 23 2013 00:04 GMT
#7519
What exactly is meant by base damage? Do things add to it? Couldn't find it in the dota 2 wiki.
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
March 23 2013 00:50 GMT
#7520
On March 23 2013 06:42 skirmisheR wrote:
Aghanim rush on beastmaster is cool too
Aghanim rush on night stalker isn't retarded either, urn phase boots into aghanim is legit (even if it's situational)
Invoker aghanim first big item can be cool
Puck too (NAH JK SON)

I don't know what you mean by "aghanim rush" but there are a lot of heroes who get it as their first big item (maybe after blinkdagger).


Aghanim first on Invoker is very powerful if your team can help with positioning.
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