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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
March 22 2013 04:32 GMT
#7481
On March 22 2013 13:04 aintz wrote:
furions who get aghs should uninstall dota2.


It's valid when the enemy team has squishy supports or high burst.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 22 2013 05:50 GMT
#7482
On March 22 2013 13:04 aintz wrote:
furions who get aghs should uninstall dota2.

It's a situationally good pickup when you have a heavy pushing lineup / need to keep a lot of lane pressure. It's people who use aghs to farm without ever leaving jungle that should uninstall.
:)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 22 2013 05:52 GMT
#7483
On March 22 2013 14:50 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 13:04 aintz wrote:
furions who get aghs should uninstall dota2.

It's a situationally good pickup when you have a heavy pushing lineup / need to keep a lot of lane pressure. It's people who use aghs to farm without ever leaving jungle that should uninstall.

Well the people who farm without ever leaving the jungle should uninstall, regardless of what items they get.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 22 2013 09:07 GMT
#7484
vanguard ok on kunkka, but u actually have to use it midgame. it make u really strong in teamfights around the 10~20 minute mark and it lets u win lanes really easily, but it tapers off pretty quickly
usually wand bottle and/or urn is enough to cover for any kind of regen u need tho
Supercilium
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden308 Posts
March 22 2013 10:03 GMT
#7485
I have trouble finding info on how/when to stack EXACTLY, I am a good player but I still fail sometimes when I try to stack(Especially radiant easy camp is tricky). I know that you should do it between xx:50-xx:55(?) but it seems to differ between the different camps.

Is there some kind of limitation to how many camps that can be stacked? For example can every camp be triple stacked?
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 10:12:35
March 22 2013 10:11 GMT
#7486
On March 22 2013 19:03 Supercilium wrote:
I have trouble finding info on how/when to stack EXACTLY, I am a good player but I still fail sometimes when I try to stack(Especially radiant easy camp is tricky). I know that you should do it between xx:50-xx:55(?) but it seems to differ between the different camps.

Is there some kind of limitation to how many camps that can be stacked? For example can every camp be triple stacked?


easy camps were changed a couple patches ago and are almost impossible to stack. for stacking you have to realize that each camp has its own unique area of blocking - for example the radiant medium pull camp can be stacked by pulling it just above the trees, even though the creeps will still be right near the spawn point.

generally pulling at 53 will be sufficient, but you can get away with different timings depending on

  • the specific camp
  • which direction you pull
  • which type of creeps you have to pull
dont ever say that
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#7487
xx:53 works for like every camp
and yea every camp can be triple stacked, it just gets hard after a while cus the creeps start blocking each other
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 10:13:41
March 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#7488
all camps can be triple stacked. You will develop a feel for when to stack when you've done it a few times, generally you pull the creeps around 53-55 sec. If it's the healing guy in ez camp you have to attack him instead of the smaller ones.

Pull too soon or too late and they won't stack.

If you got time and want to be the expert of stacking, go Chen and quadruple stack with minions and hero

Oh, and I seem to recall some change not long ago, to creep aggro range, meaning (if i understand it correctly) that you can't run too far from the creeps you're pulling(stacking) lest they run back and you won't get the stack.
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Supercilium
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden308 Posts
March 22 2013 10:19 GMT
#7489
Thanks a lot for the quick answers everyone!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 22 2013 10:27 GMT
#7490
On March 22 2013 19:03 Supercilium wrote:
I have trouble finding info on how/when to stack EXACTLY, I am a good player but I still fail sometimes when I try to stack(Especially radiant easy camp is tricky). I know that you should do it between xx:50-xx:55(?) but it seems to differ between the different camps.

Is there some kind of limitation to how many camps that can be stacked? For example can every camp be triple stacked?


Ancient's can only be stacked 4(?) times nowadays I believe.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
March 22 2013 10:29 GMT
#7491
I've stacked camps up to 6 times when playing batrider.
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 22 2013 10:42 GMT
#7492
On March 22 2013 19:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
I've stacked camps up to 6 times when playing batrider.


But that isn't full stacks, right?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
March 22 2013 10:51 GMT
#7493
Sure, why not?
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 22 2013 10:55 GMT
#7494
I dunno if we think of different things when I say full stack but...

How exactly can you keep 6 stacks of creeps alive when stacking with batrider, cuz I assume you're using that fire spell thing flying overhead, surely some would've died?

Match ID or it didnt happn.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 22 2013 10:59 GMT
#7495
u don't firefly over them until you have enough stacks to hit lv6
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 22 2013 10:59 GMT
#7496
On March 22 2013 19:59 Dead9 wrote:
u don't firefly over them until you have enough stacks to hit lv6


Then, how does one fully stack 1 camp 6 times?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
March 22 2013 11:02 GMT
#7497
You don't use the fire thingy until you've stacked it 6 times. Feel free to check my guide, you can find it in the strategy section.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
March 22 2013 11:04 GMT
#7498
On March 22 2013 19:59 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 19:59 Dead9 wrote:
u don't firefly over them until you have enough stacks to hit lv6


Then, how does one fully stack 1 camp 6 times?

The same way you stacked it the first time.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 22 2013 11:33 GMT
#7499
Oh right i forgot meepo. Meepo is the only hero where its good to rush agha.
And you can easily stack big camps 6/7 times
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
March 22 2013 11:45 GMT
#7500
yeah it's possible
but it's not as "easy" as u said erasme or firebolt45.
My record is a 5 stack. This is hard with some heroes but when u did it, its a pleaseur to take 2 or 3 level in the early game.

btw its more easy to stack Ancient !!
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