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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On March 07 2013 00:25 aintz wrote: atm nyx is probably the best pub hero. Zeus is also really strong imo. I see so many nyx going for instagib the supprot & feed the carry a kill, it does not end well if they repeat this 3 or 4 times. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On March 06 2013 01:50 Logo wrote: Got it, so would something like Anchor -> Shell -> Anchor/Gush -> Anchor/Gush -> Anchor work for laning vs 2? I like having the one level in kraken shell if against 2 since usually one of them will be ranged and the 7 damage reduction at the low levels can be pretty helpful to shrug off the harass for some last hits. Vs a solo I'd just grab gush at 2 and shell at 4. ks>as>as>gush>as>ult>as then max gush. my reasoning is that especially if you're up against a trilane (but against any lane really), when you go to ward their pull camp you have a lot more survivability to actually get the ward down. They can't lock you down long enough to kill you and the damage reduction helps tons. Getting that ward down is extremely important as Tide. It can mean getting your blink dagger and mana boots a lot sooner. Also, its highly unlikely that you'll be in range to anchor smash at level 1 anyway so its useless getting it at level 1. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On March 07 2013 01:35 TheYango wrote: The biggest advantage of having Gush level 1 is that if the enemy trilane is really hard to face, you have the opportunity to get FB (and therefore level 2) mid with a good rune (at 0 or 2 minutes). You can't gank like that with Smash or Kraken. This also goes well with opening bottle and having someone pool you wards (although its better if you random to buy your own). Fear played a pretty good ganking bottle Tide a few days ago on Demon's stream. Can't remember which Vod though. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 07 2013 03:40 Firebolt145 wrote: As usual, hold your points until you see exactly what you need. Should be standard practice for every hero in the game. I think there are at least a couple heroes that would always start the same skill (would you ever not instantly skill Bear at level 1 on Sylla unless you were trolling with a bear-less build?), but in general, yes. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On March 07 2013 05:23 Animzor wrote: Is Windrunner completely useless in the late game? Not at all. He offers great utility thanks to shackleshot + items like Sheep/Force staff/etc, and actually can fulfill a semi-carry role with items like MKB and Daedalus thanks to his ult. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On March 07 2013 05:28 Qbek wrote: FB plz , calling wr a he? FB is gender confused. It's okay, he'll figure it out. Serious question though. I tend to skip on tier 1 items a lot (null talisman, wraith band, bracer) but I know that occasionally it's good to get 1 (or even 2). I'm honestly just curious about the situations where it is better to get one of them rather than just try to rush your first item. Thinking along the lines of Broodmother, Puck, QoP, Nyx at least, I'm never honestly sure about this one. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On March 07 2013 05:28 Qbek wrote: FB plz , calling wr a he? Not like she has tits. | ||
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darkphantom
98 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On March 07 2013 06:22 darkphantom wrote: can u see ping in game ? how ? You can just type -ping in game and it will show you. There is a way to be able to always see it, but you have to use the console and that's a whole other thing to get into. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On March 07 2013 06:03 leloup wrote: FB is gender confused. It's okay, he'll figure it out. Serious question though. I tend to skip on tier 1 items a lot (null talisman, wraith band, bracer) but I know that occasionally it's good to get 1 (or even 2). I'm honestly just curious about the situations where it is better to get one of them rather than just try to rush your first item. Thinking along the lines of Broodmother, Puck, QoP, Nyx at least, I'm never honestly sure about this one. If you're about to get snowballed, you're better off massing tier 1 items and trying to win fights. Winning fights means your entire team has space to farm. Saving for items means you have the same farm on your hero as not having the item. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 07 2013 06:03 leloup wrote: FB is gender confused. It's okay, he'll figure it out. Serious question though. I tend to skip on tier 1 items a lot (null talisman, wraith band, bracer) but I know that occasionally it's good to get 1 (or even 2). I'm honestly just curious about the situations where it is better to get one of them rather than just try to rush your first item. Thinking along the lines of Broodmother, Puck, QoP, Nyx at least, I'm never honestly sure about this one. I usually just do it as a matter of convenience if I started with one of the parts (e.g. I started with a Gauntlet, Mantle, Slippers, or Circlet) and happen to have the gold at some because it's smooth to buy and gives you comfortable stats while you're still laning. Usually it just accompanies something I was already getting (e.g. I'm buying wand but I have 450 gold, I'll get 2 more lasthits and send Wraith with the wand). If I didn't start with one of those 4 parts, I typically build Wraith or Bracer for the express purpose of making Aquila/Drums. That said, of those 4 heroes, I don't see Broodmother or Nyx starting with any of the parts. Nyx could make Drums or get a Bracer or two if he's playing support, but Brood doesn't need any of the upgrades (Drums, Aquila, and Dagon are not common on her), so I don't see why you'd get any on Brood. On March 07 2013 06:56 igotmyown wrote: If you're about to get snowballed, you're better off massing tier 1 items and trying to win fights. Winning fights means your entire team has space to farm. Saving for items means you have the same farm on your hero as not having the item. The thing is, there are enough small items in the game that even if you're massing low-tier items, there are enough options among them (e.g. Wand, Urn, Medallion, Cloak, etc.) that you wouldn't end up getting double Wraith/Null/Bracer unless your team somehow exhausted all of those options. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
i like to buy an early null on qop and puck because it builds into dagon and it helps a little early game usually nyx is better of building urn instead of w.e, jango is decent but i think blink/force are better most of the time brood doesn't ever fight so you don't need to buy anything | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Recently though I've been getting drums always after a bracer. I blame the heroes I play for that(Not low hp heroes) I feel that few heroes actually need the circlet upgrade of their own attribute and now there are quite a few alternatives. I mean, which strength hero needs more hp more urgent than a core item on his list? There are of course exceptions, but apparently I'm not playing those. For mana regen, you can get medaillon of courage, urn of shadows, soul ring and magic wand. For hp regen, there are tranqil boots and magic wand. For both there is the bottle. For max hp there are urn, vit booster, drums and mekansm. Just don't see the need to wraith/null/bracer with all these cheap alternatives. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 07 2013 09:11 TheSubtleArt wrote: What do you do as Bounty Hunter for regen? I try to roam as much as I can (generally keep farming to a minimum unless I have to play more of a carry role), but it usually leaves me with low hp / mana and tping back to fountain a lot. Is a bottle worth it? My build is generally phase boots --> drums ---> deso / MKB / BKB etc. Tranquil, Bottle, and Urn are common options. RoH is also seen if the game calls for one of the things it builds into, but this is rarer. | ||
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