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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 16 2015 13:43 GMT
#21861
On May 16 2015 19:52 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 15:24 TheYango wrote:
Basically Evasion only evades autoattacks. It doesn't dodge physical damage spells.


did the most recent change allow Death Ward to hit even if you have evasion?

or can you still evade that?

You can still evade it.
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ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 00:17 GMT
#21862
Why should I pick KOTL on MMR games?
(maybe show me some pros and cons. and some advantages he brings to the game. ty :D)
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 17 2015 00:34 GMT
#21863
On May 17 2015 09:17 ActStyle wrote:
Why should I pick KOTL on MMR games?
(maybe show me some pros and cons. and some advantages he brings to the game. ty :D)

Pros:

1) He is probably the best counterpush support in the game. A KotL who can keep himself alive can make it much more difficult for the enemy team to take objectives after a won fight

2) Played well and in the right lineups he can provide a lot of utility in team fights

3) With a decent laning partner he's an absolute fuck in the offlane

4) With aghs and gem he exerts ridiculous vision control

5) EZ farm

Cons:

1) Squishy as fuck

2) Everyone has an opinion on how you should be playing him and they are usually wrong

3) His utility in teamfights only goes so far and his carry potential is honestly quite shit. It can be done but it is usually shit

4) Going back to point 2, everyone thinks you are a mana battery and don't seem to understand that you actually also need mana to do anything INCLUDING casting the next chakra

5) lol right click lol
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 17 2015 00:47 GMT
#21864
pro: you can jungle so you can play other games more efficiently while playing dota
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 01:36:21
May 17 2015 01:35 GMT
#21865
KotL should be picked against pushing lineups to slow them down. It can also be picked with heroes that need mana but doesn't want to build it unless forced. So pretty much all nukers in the game. The new CD reduction makes this even more noticable.

KotL should be picked in a 20 min push strat if you rush aghs and somebody else does mek. The aghanim heal is very very strong and the TP to you means an ally can stop split pushing and get back easily.

KotL should be picked if you have a 4+1 strat where you just need to turtle to win. The KotL should run to lanes to TP in the +1 for more farm faster when not needed to stop pushes.

If none of the above is true, then only because it is a very fun hero to play. (Had a team mate random it and flame it for being boring the entire game. Made me sad.)
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 01:59 GMT
#21866
those informations was helpful. thanks guys
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 10:32:10
May 17 2015 10:31 GMT
#21867
So, after seeing EG vs LGD game 1 now that i think about it. How legit wisp-abbadon-necro-bristle/dk + 1 (maybe furion, i dunno) draft could be? Obviously AA ban in second stage. On paper it sounds like unstoppable deathball that even keeps creeps at almost full HP (bonus points for double arcanes on wisp/necro).
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
May 17 2015 10:52 GMT
#21868
On May 17 2015 19:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, after seeing EG vs LGD game 1 now that i think about it. How legit wisp-abbadon-necro-bristle/dk + 1 (maybe furion, i dunno) draft could be? Obviously AA ban in second stage. On paper it sounds like unstoppable deathball that even keeps creeps at almost full HP (bonus points for double arcanes on wisp/necro).


For the ultimate fun go KotL, give mana to wisp that gives to necro for extreme mana regen. As with all deathballs, split pushing or enough burst is the way to go against it.

Imagine a Lina mid, QoP off lane, Gyro carry with WD + ES/SK supports. No matter what you do you won't survive that combo until late game when you have less carry potential.
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 12:16:54
May 17 2015 12:16 GMT
#21869
An aspect about kotl that I see be neglected far too often is his ability to hinder splitpushing by having a teammate stay behind while you push with 4 and then when hitting the base port in whichever hero was on base defense duty. (As seen in EG vs Secret yesterday iirc).
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
May 17 2015 12:31 GMT
#21870
On May 17 2015 21:16 Joni_ wrote:
An aspect about kotl that I see be neglected far too often is his ability to hinder splitpushing by having a teammate stay behind while you push with 4 and then when hitting the base port in whichever hero was on base defense duty. (As seen in EG vs Secret yesterday iirc).


With Wisp it gets even stronger. 1 on defence, get opportunity, wisp ulti in, Kotl ulti the first hero. 5v4 push due to dead split pusher.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2550 Posts
May 17 2015 18:05 GMT
#21871
On May 17 2015 21:16 Joni_ wrote:
An aspect about kotl that I see be neglected far too often is his ability to hinder splitpushing by having a teammate stay behind while you push with 4 and then when hitting the base port in whichever hero was on base defense duty. (As seen in EG vs Secret yesterday iirc).


That's one of those aspects that's great in competitive play, but harder to use in pubs, though. I mean, it's still a positive feature, but it's like pub Io in that it requires more coordination than your average pub lineup will consistently have.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 17 2015 19:03 GMT
#21872
On May 18 2015 03:05 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 21:16 Joni_ wrote:
An aspect about kotl that I see be neglected far too often is his ability to hinder splitpushing by having a teammate stay behind while you push with 4 and then when hitting the base port in whichever hero was on base defense duty. (As seen in EG vs Secret yesterday iirc).


That's one of those aspects that's great in competitive play, but harder to use in pubs, though. I mean, it's still a positive feature, but it's like pub Io in that it requires more coordination than your average pub lineup will consistently have.

Yeah Recall is a very powerful spell but I get yelled at half the time I use it because pubs are stupid.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
May 17 2015 19:11 GMT
#21873
does silver edge and dk's dragon breath stack additively?
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
May 17 2015 20:02 GMT
#21874
Whats the point of Morph E-blade shotgun? Feels like im just wasting farm whenever I build that item on him as I feel Im spending 5000 gold to do something a Nyx could do with 2700. Is tehir something Im not seeing?
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 17 2015 20:05 GMT
#21875
On May 18 2015 05:02 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Whats the point of Morph E-blade shotgun? Feels like im just wasting farm whenever I build that item on him as I feel Im spending 5000 gold to do something a Nyx could do with 2700. Is tehir something Im not seeing?

you basically make a fight 4v5 from the getgo. not exactly wasting farm when ur getting a load of agility from it and ethereal is great utility
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 17 2015 20:50 GMT
#21876
In addition to being a brusier carry marksman support, it also makes you a 100-to-0 burst mage
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 22:31:28
May 17 2015 22:30 GMT
#21877
You want to use it to kill someone. You don't eblade a frontliner to kill them slightly faster, you eblade a backline squishy to instantly delete them from the fight before they can cast any spells. Then you rightclick the rest of the team to death with the agi it gives you.
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 22:36 GMT
#21878
On May 18 2015 05:02 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Whats the point of Morph E-blade shotgun? Feels like im just wasting farm whenever I build that item on him as I feel Im spending 5000 gold to do something a Nyx could do with 2700. Is tehir something Im not seeing?


Obviously Instant Kill which makes him more destructive on Mid-game. every morphling player knows that.

PS: (a little advice) don't compare a hero to another hero. they are all different in so many ways like roles, skill, help in team etc, etc,
thats NOOB-ish
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
May 17 2015 22:50 GMT
#21879
Comparing heroes is important. If you don't do that you will pick the worse of two options to do the same thing. There are many things to consider though, lanes, team fight, ganking, carry capacity, support spells, crowd control, anti push, push etc. Anybody that can do the 2-3 you need should be compared.
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 23:56 GMT
#21880
I guess you didnt get my point But dont get me wrong, your point is also correct. Its just that our opinions standpoint differs. I just dont know how to explain it
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
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