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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
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Jisira
470 Posts
On May 05 2015 04:54 Sn0_Man wrote: That actually brings up some interesting play scenarios as you could astral somebody, then ult their team as astral is ending to then have time 5v1 although thats also magical christmas land, to borrow a phrase from MTG theorycrafting. The question is; when do you get the 5 man OD ult? Also, question - what defines a passive that applies to break? Riki invis does not break. Bristleback, Necromastery, Berserker's Blood and Essence Shift come to mind as a few abilities that could be huge to shut down. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
All 3 of the ones u listed break afaik And yes as I said, "magical christmas land" aka theorycrafting that pretty much never applies to reality. | ||
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Jisira
470 Posts
On May 05 2015 05:55 Sn0_Man wrote: What defines it is the list posted in the patch notes afaik All 3 of the ones u listed break afaik And yes as I said, "magical christmas land" aka theorycrafting that pretty much never applies to reality. I listed five of them, and I know that one of them does not break. It's getting to the point where I just opt out of SE because it's so inconsistent when I haven't tried it in that specific matchup yet... | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
the other 3 that weren't in the "i know doesn't work" pile do work. | ||
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Jisira
470 Posts
On May 05 2015 06:28 Sn0_Man wrote: oh i didn't see necromastery the other 3 that weren't in the "i know doesn't work" pile do work. Essence Shift stops reapplying by Break, but you can't purge the stacks... I guess this just means I have to know when his stacks disappear. If SF buys back and gets a kill with SE Break on him and does not get souls it's pretty significant. I gotta try that one later. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6230 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On May 05 2015 16:44 Belisarius wrote: OD aghs seems to exist solely so that the guy who keeps saving enemies with astral can progress to saving the entire enemy team with astral. I mean it seems more like a disengage tool. Since it doesn't give you a damage boost or any extra utility you probably aren't going to be going aghs if you're trying to do more damage. The effect could synergize with some long-setup spells, or you could potentially use it to set up an enemy-only chrono etc. On May 05 2015 05:55 Jisira wrote: The question is; when do you get the 5 man OD ult? aghs still does increase the radius of the ult to 800, it's not that uncommon. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
You need some obscene Int difference for the multiplier increase on the old Agha to come anywhere close to the amount of damage the 2nd ulti adds with multiple heroes worth of Int steal. And by obscene I mean "not possible in a real game". Basically this just turns Agha into "mediocre utility without Refresher, but crazy damage with Refresher". | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
astral gives only +6 intel or a shit like that no ? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
so thats + 13 to OD and minus 13 to the other guy, 26 int difference. Plus 13 more int stolen per target hit. If you hit 5 people its 78 additional int difference. At 10 dmg per int, thats 780 more dmg on ur second ult | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
220 int ..... lvl25 6-slotted OD +30 int ..... Alchemist aghs (+30 int from atos) - 96 int ..... lvl25 6 slotted axe +78 int ..... Added int to OD according to Sno ---- + 232 int difference equals 2320 damage to axe. Like wtf, i must have screwed something up i guess, because this isnt even fair, or is it? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
also 78 requires a 5-man first ult also aghs is 10 int. | ||
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VelJa
France1109 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 06 2015 23:44 Sn0_Man wrote: the added damage only occurs on your 2nd ult if you have a refresher also 78 requires a 5-man first ult also aghs is 10 int. Well, or 3-4 man first ult + regular Astral once or twice to clean up the stragglers. But yeah, if you look at the numbers Sn0 gave, it's pretty easy to see why Icefrog made the damage comes before the Int steal lol. | ||
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Courvoisir
Germany9 Posts
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