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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 03 2015 23:05 GMT
#21701
On May 04 2015 04:20 hariooo wrote:
How is break dispelled by manta/diff/bkb? Same rules as silence?

Depends on the source, it's not general to the debuff type (just like how not all silences have the same interaction with purge/BKB either).

Silver Edge is dispellable, Doom and Demonic Purge aren't.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
May 04 2015 02:18 GMT
#21702
why do some items complete when buying from side/secret shop without u having to drop items for slots and others behave the opposite?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
May 04 2015 04:47 GMT
#21703
On May 04 2015 11:18 ahswtini wrote:
why do some items complete when buying from side/secret shop without u having to drop items for slots and others behave the opposite?


I think this has more to do with how the item is bought. If you buy it in one clump it shouldn't require dropping and so on. If you buy the pieces one by one it does require it. (Not tested.)
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
May 04 2015 05:58 GMT
#21704
eg if you have one slot open you can buy a soul booster straight up but not individually clicking the components

UNLESS cases like you have brown boots and then you can't do it because the game tries to make arcane boots for you or something and it gives the same "not enough slots" thing.

it's a weird mechanic with some strange bugs. might just be interactions with current items held stuff going on
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 06:10:28
May 04 2015 06:08 GMT
#21705
The fact that quickbuy refuses to purchase whole items still gets me killed every so often.

Secret/sideshops should have a temporary stash that holds your junk for a few seconds and then either resells it or dumps it on the ground.
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
May 04 2015 06:14 GMT
#21706
if you open shop with your hotkey, and right click the completed item that you want, it'll buy/make it
everything that rises must converge
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 06:43:28
May 04 2015 06:42 GMT
#21707
Of course, but the whole point of quickbuy is to avoid doing that.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 04 2015 13:09 GMT
#21708
Did someone can explain me the new OD Aghs please?

Thanks in advance
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
May 04 2015 14:10 GMT
#21709
On May 04 2015 22:09 VelJa wrote:
Did someone can explain me the new OD Aghs please?

Thanks in advance


It nukes them, after that it casts Astral prison on them. So they nerfed it unless you kill 1-2 with it and allow your team to setup on the remaining as with naga sleep.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 04 2015 15:24 GMT
#21710
On May 04 2015 23:10 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 22:09 VelJa wrote:
Did someone can explain me the new OD Aghs please?

Thanks in advance


It nukes them, after that it casts Astral prison on them. So they nerfed it unless you kill 1-2 with it and allow your team to setup on the remaining as with naga sleep.

thx m8
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 04 2015 15:38 GMT
#21711
On May 04 2015 23:10 Yurie wrote:
It nukes them, after that it casts Astral prison on them. So they nerfed it unless you kill 1-2 with it and allow your team to setup on the remaining as with naga sleep.

Well, it also does massively more damage on the second ulti with Refresher now. Whereas before the item kind of had it's own merits because of the mana drain, now it feels like it's only worth buying after you already have Refresher.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
May 04 2015 15:40 GMT
#21712
yeah i don't understand this new od aghs, like why didn't they make it so that you astral them all first and then kill them.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2015 15:41 GMT
#21713
On May 05 2015 00:40 ahswtini wrote:
yeah i don't understand this new od aghs, like why didn't they make it so that you astral them all first and then kill them.

unfortunately that's unbalanceable
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 04 2015 15:50 GMT
#21714
Can you astral imprison a unit already in astral imprisonment with aghs? Your ult can hit targets in astral imprisonment after all.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:56:39
May 04 2015 15:56 GMT
#21715
On May 05 2015 00:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:40 ahswtini wrote:
yeah i don't understand this new od aghs, like why didn't they make it so that you astral them all first and then kill them.

unfortunately that's unbalanceable

Yeah, I don't think people realize how absurd that amount of damage is.

On May 05 2015 00:50 Unleashing wrote:
Can you astral imprison a unit already in astral imprisonment with aghs? Your ult can hit targets in astral imprisonment after all.

No, because you can't click on someone in Astral, lol.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 04 2015 15:58 GMT
#21716
On May 05 2015 00:50 Unleashing wrote:
Can you astral imprison a unit already in astral imprisonment with aghs? Your ult can hit targets in astral imprisonment after all.

It doesn't apply a second astral.
:)
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 16:22:27
May 04 2015 16:21 GMT
#21717
On May 05 2015 00:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:40 ahswtini wrote:
yeah i don't understand this new od aghs, like why didn't they make it so that you astral them all first and then kill them.

unfortunately that's unbalanceable

Yeah, I don't think people realize how absurd that amount of damage is.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:50 Unleashing wrote:
Can you astral imprison a unit already in astral imprisonment with aghs? Your ult can hit targets in astral imprisonment after all.

No, because you can't click on someone in Astral, lol.

I didn't mean casting astral on someone in astral, i was wondering if the aghs effect that puts people under astral imprisonment worked on units currently affected by astral imprisonment and if you got the int/refreshed the duration of the astral imprisonment.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2015 16:23 GMT
#21718
Synapse indicated that it doesn't work. Which seems correct but I don't know and am 2lazy to test myself.
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Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
May 04 2015 19:51 GMT
#21719
On May 05 2015 01:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
Synapse indicated that it doesn't work. Which seems correct but I don't know and am 2lazy to test myself.


Tested, does not apply second Astral, does not prolong the current Astral, does not steal additional Int.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2015 19:54 GMT
#21720
That actually brings up some interesting play scenarios as you could astral somebody, then ult their team as astral is ending to then have time 5v1
although thats also magical christmas land, to borrow a phrase from MTG theorycrafting.
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