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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 14 2015 02:09 GMT
#20341
yea, and later on if you're smart about it you can cut waves to farm them, especially if you're positioned around the enemy jungle
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
January 14 2015 07:30 GMT
#20342
What was the change that pushed Slark into (semi-)popular competitive pick and goto pubstomper?

I remember years ago when Liquid picked Slark for Korok at AWC it was a big deal and a relatively surprising pick. I know this changed a while ago but can't remember exactly when Slark rose to prominence.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 07:38:37
January 14 2015 07:37 GMT
#20343
If I can remember correctly the meta during that time had a hard time laning slark that's why he has been played mid to get that fast 6 and gank other lanes.

In 6.79 Slark's ult was buffed that it can no longer be revealed by true sight which made him a more popular and stronger stomper.

Here's a very notable Slark game by Korok ( i think this was the one)
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 07:40:30
January 14 2015 07:39 GMT
#20344
I was thinking it might have been 6.79

I basically didn't watch or play Dota between TI3 and TI4 so I figured it had to be somewhere in that timeframe.

although it does feel like Slark became a lot more popular sometime after TI4. Really I have no idea lol
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 14 2015 08:21 GMT
#20345
is there any reason (historical?) that qop's scream of pain doesn't have an aoe marker compared to something like tiny's stun which does?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 14 2015 08:46 GMT
#20346
Scream is because it's not targeted.

If you meant Sonic Wave, it's because there's no cone-shaped AoE marker in the Warcraft 3 engine for Shockwave-based spells, while there is one for circular AoEs, so all Shockwave-based spells simply inherited the lack of an AoE marker from their base spell.

Practically speaking, I don't see why there *couldn't* be one in DotA 2.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
January 14 2015 13:43 GMT
#20347
Does Rupture damage Storm that's using ball lighting to move?
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 14 2015 13:51 GMT
#20348
No storm is invulnerable in ball lightning
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
January 14 2015 20:14 GMT
#20349
On January 14 2015 22:43 Oukka wrote:
Does Rupture damage Storm that's using ball lighting to move?

What's really fun is watching Pugna's death ward zap storm as he ball lightning's around, doing 0 damage.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 02:51:44
January 16 2015 02:26 GMT
#20350
Okay so DAC EU quals Alliance vs Na'vi G1, the super long troll v dusa rapier game...

+ Show Spoiler +


1:05:45 Pajkatt buys back to baserace as troll. At 1:06:15ish he's attacking the towers in ranged form while Na'vi practically fountain dive his base. Surely troll should be melee for dps there?

Is it just a safety thing or is there an actual DPS interaction I'm missing? He does it to several undefended towers and at the very very end he even goes for throne again in ranged form under BKB.
.mercy
Profile Joined August 2014
14 Posts
January 16 2015 03:21 GMT
#20351
On January 16 2015 11:26 Belisarius wrote:
Okay so DAC EU quals Alliance vs Na'vi G1, the super long troll v dusa rapier game...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://youtu.be/OAdctXXw06c


1:05:45 Pajkatt buys back to baserace as troll. At 1:06:15ish he's attacking the towers in ranged form while Na'vi practically fountain dive his base. Surely troll should be melee for dps there?

Is it just a safety thing or is there an actual DPS interaction I'm missing? He does it to several undefended towers and at the very very end he even goes for throne again in ranged form under BKB.

Must've just been safety. Theres literally no other reason I can think of
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
January 16 2015 04:18 GMT
#20352
Quick noob question, haven't played Dota in about 7 months now or so.

Used to always play middle in a "ward the rune spots, get the rune every two minutes and use rune control to help gank sidelanes/kill own opponent" kinda way. With there now being two runes, am I right in asusming that I should still go for the "normal" rune instead of the bounty rune or are bounty's benefits bigger?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 16 2015 04:36 GMT
#20353
The rune in question is not important, the focus is on acquiring any rune to refill your bottle and safety. So you'd push the lane at 1:50 and book it to whichever side you consider safer and take that rune.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 16 2015 05:48 GMT
#20354
The "normal" rune is often better, but in a lot of cases you can only really go for the safe lane side rune because it's safer to get.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
January 16 2015 06:03 GMT
#20355
I'd rather have the boutny rune than an illusion rune on most heroes, any other rune i'd rather have the real rune
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 06:27:34
January 16 2015 06:26 GMT
#20356
why so? idk how many creeps a bounty rune is worth
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 16 2015 06:56 GMT
#20357
Bounty rune is 50+2*minute gold and 50+5*minute XP, so for most of laning it's between 1 and 2 creeps worth of each.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
January 16 2015 07:04 GMT
#20358
On January 16 2015 15:03 KOFgokuon wrote:
I'd rather have the boutny rune than an illusion rune on most heroes, any other rune i'd rather have the real rune
illusion runes are really strong, you can farm ancients with them, bait out spells, pretend to be ganking a lane you're not actually in...they are quite useful.
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Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
January 16 2015 07:37 GMT
#20359
On January 16 2015 16:04 l3loodraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 15:03 KOFgokuon wrote:
I'd rather have the boutny rune than an illusion rune on most heroes, any other rune i'd rather have the real rune
illusion runes are really strong, you can farm ancients with them, bait out spells, pretend to be ganking a lane you're not actually in...they are quite useful.


Don't forget stacking and scouting
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
January 16 2015 07:43 GMT
#20360
On January 15 2015 05:14 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 22:43 Oukka wrote:
Does Rupture damage Storm that's using ball lighting to move?

What's really fun is watching Pugna's death ward zap storm as he ball lightning's around, doing 0 damage.

holy crap i actually thought nether ward was an exception and does deal damage within ult
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