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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 10 2014 09:41 GMT
#20001
FHDH is correcto. the mana burn damage is a separate instance of damage, and is not treated as attack damage.

although from that thread, it's interesting that you can lifesteal the bonus feast damage on naix
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 12:44:15
December 10 2014 12:41 GMT
#20002
@Nevuk, FHDH and ahswtini
Thank you. That table holds quite some surprises, like mana break and feedback having different interactions with lifesteal (wtf i thought they were coded the same way).
low gravity, yes-yes!
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
December 10 2014 13:23 GMT
#20003
Huh, I thought that shadowblade's extra damage could crit. I might build it less on kunkka now :-p
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 10 2014 13:26 GMT
#20004
On December 10 2014 22:23 Gowerly wrote:
Huh, I thought that shadowblade's extra damage could crit. I might build it less on kunkka now :-p

it's decent damage with tidebringer, but most kunkkas build blink now
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 10 2014 14:44 GMT
#20005
On December 10 2014 22:23 Gowerly wrote:
Huh, I thought that shadowblade's extra damage could crit. I might build it less on kunkka now :-p

You used to be able to, made it an amazing item on bounty hunter.
The damage can still cleave though and is still perfectly legit on kunkka. But yeah, blink has become a lot more popular recently.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
December 10 2014 15:23 GMT
#20006
On December 10 2014 23:44 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 22:23 Gowerly wrote:
Huh, I thought that shadowblade's extra damage could crit. I might build it less on kunkka now :-p

You used to be able to, made it an amazing item on bounty hunter.
The damage can still cleave though and is still perfectly legit on kunkka. But yeah, blink has become a lot more popular recently.

I just love the blink on Kunkka for self-x peekaboo antics. It's fun to do, and actually yields good results sometimes.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
December 11 2014 12:17 GMT
#20007
How do you 1v1 mid vs druid as a melee hero (Slark) when he just a-moves his bear on you?
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 11 2014 12:44 GMT
#20008
On December 11 2014 21:17 Ryder. wrote:
How do you 1v1 mid vs druid as a melee hero (Slark) when he just a-moves his bear on you?

start stout tangoes
get poor mans shield asap,

try for the kill when you hit lvl 2 on the druid, hes very very weak. If u kill him , it will be harder for him to a click you

ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 13:06:36
December 11 2014 13:06 GMT
#20009
Ty

I didn't think it would be bear mid cause pubs (who knows who will be mid) so didn't start with stout, and by time I got bottle and stout it was too late.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 11 2014 15:43 GMT
#20010
How do auras work with illusions? I know Gem carries over to illusions, does everything? Drums, AC, Vlads?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 15:47 GMT
#20011
illusions carry auras always
however the only ones that actually do anything for the illusions themselves are AS/MS auras
also its definitely easier to check the wiki than it is to ask here I think.
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 11 2014 15:50 GMT
#20012
On December 12 2014 00:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
illusions carry auras always
however the only ones that actually do anything for the illusions themselves are AS/MS auras
also its definitely easier to check the wiki than it is to ask here I think.


Fine, jeez... jerk.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 15:52 GMT
#20013
:>
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:18:52
December 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#20014
When you make a illusion of undying in flesh golem form, the illusion gets a full 30 second duration flesh golem according to dotawiki. Seems that sometimes the illusion can be more usefull then the original hero when flesh golem timer is soon to end.

When you face alot of aura's, maybe darkseer wall of replica could help out.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
December 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#20015
On December 12 2014 00:43 HollowLord wrote:
How do auras work with illusions? I know Gem carries over to illusions, does everything? Drums, AC, Vlads?

Exceptions: Illusions can benefit from auras based on Endurance Aura, such as Yasha's movement speed and attack speed bonus, or Beastmaster's Inner Beast

I'm actually not sure about kobold/necrobook auras. mb someone can check
everything that rises must converge
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 11 2014 19:06 GMT
#20016
Couple of questions on Bane support:
- Is he best played as a 4 or 5 support?
- Does he work well in a dual-lane or function more properly in a tri?
- How do you combat the mana issues? The hero has great abilities but they're all really mana heavy.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 19:36 GMT
#20017
Bane actually loves items but he really just has no good way to farm (0 aoe whatsoever) so most of the time he's going to be the 5 because farm time on him just doesn't get you as much as farm time does on other supports. That said you should definitely be finding farm if it's available in a lane or whatever.

Bane's fine in dual or tri lanes. Nightmare is among the best setup skills in the game, but if ur say babysitting an AM who doesn't use the setup then enfeeble and brain sap let you fight harass wars really really well to keep ur carry relatively unscathed while farming.

To fight mana issues you just buy clarities and mana boots. Most of your spells aren't really designed to be spammed and often should be kills when they are used. Bottle is also not terrible since you are quite strong roaming to setup kills in other lanes but you generally don't utilize the HP regen as well as other heroes do and a full bottle doesn't really give you many spells lol.

Usually the plan is to get a kill with spells then if i'm low just base since i'm a support and if I still have HP i either try to finish mana boots or fly myself a clarity (and often a smoke). I kinda treat him like an ES where you just accept that ur gonna chew through clarities for a while.

PS: this is the shit we put in hero-specific discussion threads ;P
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 11 2014 20:00 GMT
#20018
On December 12 2014 04:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Bane actually loves items but he really just has no good way to farm (0 aoe whatsoever) so most of the time he's going to be the 5 because farm time on him just doesn't get you as much as farm time does on other supports. That said you should definitely be finding farm if it's available in a lane or whatever.

Bane's fine in dual or tri lanes. Nightmare is among the best setup skills in the game, but if ur say babysitting an AM who doesn't use the setup then enfeeble and brain sap let you fight harass wars really really well to keep ur carry relatively unscathed while farming.

To fight mana issues you just buy clarities and mana boots. Most of your spells aren't really designed to be spammed and often should be kills when they are used. Bottle is also not terrible since you are quite strong roaming to setup kills in other lanes but you generally don't utilize the HP regen as well as other heroes do and a full bottle doesn't really give you many spells lol.

Usually the plan is to get a kill with spells then if i'm low just base since i'm a support and if I still have HP i either try to finish mana boots or fly myself a clarity (and often a smoke). I kinda treat him like an ES where you just accept that ur gonna chew through clarities for a while.

PS: this is the shit we put in hero-specific discussion threads ;P


Thanks for the insight. I thought about the [H] Bane thread but that "3 months old, bump it and I'll ban hammer you" warning got the best of me. I'll make sure I post there in the future.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 20:47:05
December 11 2014 20:46 GMT
#20019
anywhere 2 to 5 works, assuming ur mid or support. fast levels and items are great on bane but not really necessary

depending on lane u can often skip enfeeble until much later which helps a lot
stats over nightmare helps too

most of the time u only spend mana for kills, or for the first few minutes of the game while u zone the offlaner soa couple clarities is usually enough

imo arcanes is a waste unless youre going to 5man. bane doent really spend mana outside of teamfights, generally enough for your full combo is enough. brown boots blink is rly strong on this hero
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 20:52 GMT
#20020
well u need something or else u literally can't cast all ur spells (ignoring enfeeble which u often don't skill) for quite a few levels without the mana drain from ur ult which isn't the most reliable thing ever.
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