On April 25 2017 03:15 Asjo wrote:
So, I didn't manage to catch much of Kiev Major yet, and only saw a few minutes of Faceless. Any thoughts on their play so far?

I didn't analyze it deeply and only watched their games vs EG so far, but they don't look very composed. Particularly in game 3 vs EG there were some really bad mistakes, bad calls, and overall bad play by several of them. It seems like they lack someone making the right calls on their team.

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

April 25 2017 00:24 GMT

#84

On April 25 2017 03:15 Asjo wrote:
So, I didn't manage to catch much of Kiev Major yet, and only saw a few minutes of Faceless. Any thoughts on their play so far?

They seem to often be in a good position to win games, but somehow make mind boggling decisions that loses them instead. Also, one or two of black/jabz/ice will start choking.

shouldbeworking

946 Posts

April 25 2017 02:04 GMT

#85

It is really hard being a Faceless fan. Moments of brilliance and then just really questionable calls all over the place. It seems their overall plan is just weak and they fall apart with or without a lead.

Game 1 vs EG they started to gain momentum and then all of sudden Black and XY over extend for a support kill and get punished and lose aegis. Then Ice3 just goes straight into enemy jungle to get picked off again.

Asjo

Denmark664 Posts

April 25 2017 11:00 GMT

#86

From what I've watched after posing my question, it feels like what you guys are saying is on point. Botched initation of fights, strange decision making, bad disengages. iceiceice has always had a somewhat suicidal style on Faceless, but he doesn't seem to have his usual high impact and cannot control the flow of the game. Black get caught out unnecessarily too often, as usual. And yet, they have some great combo plays sometimes that seem quite clever. Black sometimes does some really smart plays to help give Faceless an added edge. What I saw from them was definitely not low-level play, but sadly, just not that consistent.

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

April 27 2017 01:56 GMT

#87

Faceless is SEA version of NP.

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

April 27 2017 02:15 GMT

#88

On April 27 2017 10:56 Caladbolg wrote:
Faceless is SEA version of NP.

NP didn't dominate NA though.

korendir

Singapore259 Posts

April 28 2017 12:36 GMT

#89

They constantly confuse me, nice win against TNC who I truly expected to go further. It's like SEA teams just fall against them somehow

chairs

Singapore120 Posts

April 29 2017 16:49 GMT

#90

Didn't see the games, but they gave OG Naga AND TB? What happened?

konadora

Singapore66358 Posts

April 29 2017 20:43 GMT

#91

they lost because they gave OG naga in game 3 after that game 2

thought they would have learned..

OmniEulogy

Canada6598 Posts

April 30 2017 14:16 GMT

#92

Faceless has decided to stick together after being able to make top 8 and almost making top 4. Hopefully before TI they don't try to kick their players as the event is starting again, probably not great for morale going into an event. Very happy they're staying together though

derElbe

Germany571 Posts

May 13 2017 07:47 GMT

#93

is the Liquipedia schedule for epicenter wrong? it says that they have to play now.

OmniEulogy

Canada6598 Posts

May 13 2017 08:58 GMT

#94

Clutch and Fnatic's series went long so Faceless vs Clutch is being delayed.

looks like it's been rescheduled to tomorrow night

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

May 13 2017 09:37 GMT

#95

no english stream for our boys, what the fuck

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

May 22 2017 08:19 GMT

#96

I don't understand why faceless like to run no spammable stun lineups. They tend to rely heavily on just 1/2 big ulti like WL, and often just get kited in fights or can't gank at all.

Also I don't think nutz is good enough, but he and ice are buddies....

MetalMercury

United States1161 Posts

May 23 2017 12:24 GMT

#97

On May 22 2017 17:19 DucK- wrote:
I don't understand why faceless like to run no spammable stun lineups. They tend to rely heavily on just 1/2 big ulti like WL, and often just get kited in fights or can't gank at all.

Also I don't think nutz is good enough, but he and ice are buddies....

Yeah their supports are really underwhelming. Everyone complains about Jabz but the supports do practically nothing to enable him, and Black / iceiceice can only do so much.

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

May 27 2017 11:55 GMT

#98

we back

Caladbolg

2855 Posts

May 27 2017 11:59 GMT

#99

Jabz support was the missing link. Xy wasn't technically skilled enough for what the role now requires. Perfect position swap too with xy as he can farm and right click well enough.