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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 27 2016 19:02 GMT
#2661
Even if they lost the game vs Alliance it doesnt matter as they play like a team again. No more random throws, sticking around for too long etc. Yeah there were a couple of mistakes, but they are part of the game.
Liquid are doing it!
BasalGanglia
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
October 27 2016 19:16 GMT
#2662
On October 28 2016 04:02 NInoff wrote:
Even if they lost the game vs Alliance it doesnt matter as they play like a team again. No more random throws, sticking around for too long etc. Yeah there were a couple of mistakes, but they are part of the game.
Liquid are doing it!


I agree on the the "they play like a team again" part, but "random throws" was like the definition of that last game, luckily Alliance decided throw even harder.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 27 2016 19:45 GMT
#2663
holy shit games are being won boys
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 27 2016 22:13 GMT
#2664
Is it possible Matu wasn't feeling well or something so Kuro took over carry? That was so strange, and while kuro did fine on drow, Matu clearly has 0 experience playing that lol.
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
October 27 2016 22:52 GMT
#2665
Oh my glob I missed it all...
Tell me everything!!! :O
EXTERMINATE!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 23:26:45
October 27 2016 23:23 GMT
#2666
Crushed game1, dominant game2.

Started crushing game3, Miracle almost double net worth of Alliance top hero....take out all t2 towers. And then Miracle runs into sentry vs 5men+feeds, gets picked off along with 2 heroes top, fail push 3 times where he stands next to supports proceeds to get chrono'd with them, snap dies without them being able to help and basically does nothing . Alliance wipes us with surprise refresher on void, proceeds to crush, game is all but lost, lose 2 lanes of raxes way behind in net worth, game clearly lost with alliance pushing with as illusions and bkb gyro.

Then finally Miracle stands in right place before a fight, they defend last rax with buybacks kill 4 heroes of alliance.

Loda decides to throw, TPs alone into almost full team,feeds dieback the boys run to throne to end the game with Kuro rapier, me laughing maniacally watching this unfold as they get handed a totally lost game on a platter
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
October 27 2016 23:50 GMT
#2667
On October 28 2016 03:44 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 03:43 BasalGanglia wrote:
On October 28 2016 03:05 Shaella wrote:
Maybe Matu just doesn't play drow


no, matu is a very good drow player, thats not the reason. not sure what was. And Matu had such a monster game with timber before that his performance could not be it iether. Maybe Liquid just felt so confident that they decided to goof around, but weird to do it in major qualifier.

MAybe Kuro doesn't play warlock? XD

That was Matumbaman's first game on Warlock, so I'm pretty sure that's not the reason.

As to the actual reason, I can only guess, but I'm presuming it went something like this:
Kuro: Man, I'm so tired of playing support all the time. I miss playing carry.
Matu: Let's do it then bro. You play carry, I'll support you no problem. I mean I've never played support before in my life but I'm sure it'll be fine.
Kuro: ALRIGHT LET'S DO IT WHO CARES ABOUT THE BOSTON MAJOR ANYWAY!
*Everybody cheers and rips off their shirts*
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 28 2016 00:40 GMT
#2668
www.twitch.tv can someone who speaks Finnish translate ~10:48:00. According to reddit it is an interview with Matu saying that they agreed Kuro will play Drow.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4965 Posts
October 28 2016 01:43 GMT
#2669
You guys should have seen Nazgul after that third game, he even rewatched that ending, i think he couldn't believe what had just happened ^^
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 28 2016 05:54 GMT
#2670
On October 28 2016 10:43 FO-nTTaX wrote:
You guys should have seen Nazgul after that third game, he even rewatched that ending, i think he couldn't believe what had just happened ^^

He wasnt the only one who couldnt believe that;)
Never underestimate alliance power to throw.
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
October 28 2016 06:09 GMT
#2671
Need to go at least 2-4 on day 2 to probably make tiebreakers for top 4. Na]vi should be a free win if rumors are true. Secret and VP will be tough.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 28 2016 06:24 GMT
#2672
On October 28 2016 15:09 common_cider wrote:
Need to go at least 2-4 on day 2 to probably make tiebreakers for top 4. Na]vi should be a free win if rumors are true. Secret and VP will be tough.

BRO WE'RE GONNA GO 6-0

We've transfered the throwing energy to other teams

its all ogre now
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
BasalGanglia
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
October 28 2016 06:42 GMT
#2673
On October 28 2016 09:40 giftdgecko wrote:
www.twitch.tv can someone who speaks Finnish translate ~10:48:00. According to reddit it is an interview with Matu saying that they agreed Kuro will play Drow.

"can i ask why you played warlock and not drow?"
"we have decided so that if kuro plays drow I'll play support?"
"But in any other case you'll still play carry?"
"about." [Matu's actual non-translated reply]


Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
October 28 2016 08:52 GMT
#2674
On October 28 2016 15:09 common_cider wrote:
Need to go at least 2-4 on day 2 to probably make tiebreakers for top 4. Na]vi should be a free win if rumors are true. Secret and VP will be tough.

What rumors?

And not a pretty start to the day, alott of sloppy play, Ogre being first blooded, Miracle farming way to aggressive several times leaping into creeps too starstorm only to be Roared and killed. And generally just being picked off too much getting runes and shit.
Matu and MC seemed fine I guess, just couldnt do enough.
And navi played rly well also, cant take that away, they were on from the start.
Hope Liquid pulls it together in the next one!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 28 2016 09:03 GMT
#2675
Couldnt watch the game, but "Miracle farming way too agressive" is something that we hear way too often.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 28 2016 10:04 GMT
#2676
That's part of his style, he's been doing that on OG as well (their final Ember game in TI glaring exame it is). You can't have a player to be dominant in many games, carry the team without taking risks and pushing edges. We'd keep Fata if we wanted someone more solid.

Although I don't recall Miracle being exactly a Mirana first pick player - it's always going to be a struggle on heroes he doesn't play often. And the boys keep drafting him those. It still seems like they want to be Wings or bust Instead of sticking to what they know and is predictable
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 10:08:04
October 28 2016 10:06 GMT
#2677
On October 28 2016 17:52 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 15:09 common_cider wrote:
Need to go at least 2-4 on day 2 to probably make tiebreakers for top 4. Na]vi should be a free win if rumors are true. Secret and VP will be tough.

What rumors?

And not a pretty start to the day, alott of sloppy play, Ogre being first blooded, Miracle farming way to aggressive several times leaping into creeps too starstorm only to be Roared and killed. And generally just being picked off too much getting runes and shit.
Matu and MC seemed fine I guess, just couldnt do enough.
And navi played rly well also, cant take that away, they were on from the start.
Hope Liquid pulls it together in the next one!

They seemed like they've given up - their late game coordination is abysmal with the players disjointed, clearly there's internal issues and people expect a shuffle after the qualis. Sadly for us their laning and 25minute face rush cis style is still world class
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
October 28 2016 10:27 GMT
#2678
9,1k support is the way (?).
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
k0pf
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany180 Posts
October 28 2016 10:38 GMT
#2679
Well maybe the farm distribution works better with kuro and miracle. Or matu doesn't like to play the pushing style carry. But I don't think this will be a thing for long. It would be such a waste to see matu switch roles :-(
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
October 28 2016 10:38 GMT
#2680
On October 28 2016 15:42 BasalGanglia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 09:40 giftdgecko wrote:
www.twitch.tv can someone who speaks Finnish translate ~10:48:00. According to reddit it is an interview with Matu saying that they agreed Kuro will play Drow.

"can i ask why you played warlock and not drow?"
"we have decided so that if kuro plays drow I'll play support?"
"But in any other case you'll still play carry?"
"about." [Matu's actual non-translated reply]



Seems like internal problems. Matu doesn't seem happy... I don't want them to shuffle T_T
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