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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 12:59:00
October 14 2015 12:56 GMT
#121
I wouldn't be surprised if they added some europeans to the team (although i see teams really avoiding it after ti).

Probably replacing TC and Biryu (although I don't even think TC is bad, he's underrated imo)

and i know biryu is an european, but still
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 15:33:46
October 14 2015 15:31 GMT
#122
On October 14 2015 21:16 AwfuL_ wrote:
I've only watched recaps but what was TC supposed to do in game 2 with Luna? Like every teamfight i saw had a BKB LC and a TA with aegis blink initiating on him while a BKB gyro was killing his team, A Luna can't stand up to that. Yet he's the one that has to be in front to bait the initiation because if DS or Veno or Qop gets forced into a Duel by LC they lose the teamfight 100%. Their was basically no other way for DC to take teamfights unless they got a pickoff with Qop Orchid/Hex.


Yeh honestly I thought TC played fine that series. I dont think anybody on DC played terribly. The strategical desicions and game plans were more the problem imo.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
October 14 2015 15:34 GMT
#123
Bulba is the best one on the team imo. His plays are just amazing. In the last game, where they let the game reach 50mins+ it is over against a TA/Gyro/LC against essentially a Luna/QOP. I hope DC does not disband and work out their issues.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 14 2015 16:19 GMT
#124
TC and Bulba aren't trash players, but they're middling and average players, and haven't seen much improvement since their Liquid days.

In 2013 that was enough to be at the top of NA. 2015 and onward, not so much.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
October 14 2015 16:21 GMT
#125
Bulba played well throughout the qualifiers. TC made some mistakes, but people are acting like the losses are all because of him, which isn't true. Yawar played great one game and awful the next. Aui... was Aui. He did Aui things, both good and bad. Biryu, though... I don't recall a single game where Biryu had any sort of impact. Sure, part of that is his position and farm, but he also makes a lot of mechanical mistakes a professional player absolutely should not make. I don't know exactly what he brings to the table for DC, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking the team would be better off without him.
Blackspikes
Profile Joined August 2014
United States51 Posts
October 14 2015 20:48 GMT
#126
Honestly, besides biryu everyone played decently. Lately they just haven't been able to win when it counts. They destroyed in the quals but couldn't win when it counted.
Be sure the light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 14 2015 20:58 GMT
#127
i really don't get why anyone can defend TC those games were like both 100% on him.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
October 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#128
I only saw the luna game. There was was nothing he couldve done after the cores got bkb, but at the very least he shouldn't have been caught doing inane stuff. But tbh, yawar losing mid heavily to a ta with high ping who also died twice early game, that REALLY gimped their lineup. Say what you want about carry tc, but I have seen mid tc so many times to confidently say that he rarely loses his mid that badly.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 14 2015 21:39 GMT
#129
I think tc and yawar should swap roles. I think tc is best at mid, while I'm sure yawar is comfortable at carry.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 12:25:28
October 15 2015 12:09 GMT
#130
On October 15 2015 01:21 SFDuality wrote:
Bulba played well throughout the qualifiers. TC made some mistakes, but people are acting like the losses are all because of him, which isn't true. Yawar played great one game and awful the next. Aui... was Aui. He did Aui things, both good and bad. Biryu, though... I don't recall a single game where Biryu had any sort of impact. Sure, part of that is his position and farm, but he also makes a lot of mechanical mistakes a professional player absolutely should not make. I don't know exactly what he brings to the table for DC, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking the team would be better off without him.

surprised only one guy mentioned aui, who made some extremely bad decisions in game 2. his ultimate was everything for DC to win a teamfight, every teamfight they won involved poison novas hititng 3 or more people and every teamfight they lost involved poison nova hitting maybe one person or nobody at all. i didnt understand why he didnt get a blink dagger despite sitting on 15k+ networth
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
October 15 2015 13:44 GMT
#131
be self aware and work on things daily. I would hope they don't depend on a roster shuffle because already for these guys a lot rides on being on this team together.

this is a team you'd like to see succeeding before disbanding but so far they're getting pretty heavily outstrategized and outplayed by many [other] top level teams.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 14:22:32
October 15 2015 14:19 GMT
#132
On October 15 2015 21:09 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 01:21 SFDuality wrote:
Bulba played well throughout the qualifiers. TC made some mistakes, but people are acting like the losses are all because of him, which isn't true. Yawar played great one game and awful the next. Aui... was Aui. He did Aui things, both good and bad. Biryu, though... I don't recall a single game where Biryu had any sort of impact. Sure, part of that is his position and farm, but he also makes a lot of mechanical mistakes a professional player absolutely should not make. I don't know exactly what he brings to the table for DC, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking the team would be better off without him.

surprised only one guy mentioned aui, who made some extremely bad decisions in game 2. his ultimate was everything for DC to win a teamfight, every teamfight they won involved poison novas hititng 3 or more people and every teamfight they lost involved poison nova hitting maybe one person or nobody at all. i didnt understand why he didnt get a blink dagger despite sitting on 15k+ networth

Bkb. Actually, their entire lineup that game was countered by bkbs. Their drafting, among other things, has been shit. Especially that one game against c9 where they drafted carry (???) furion against ns/ember, with nyx still in the pool. That was really dumb.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#133
ah, the ever rotating draft position. Always a sign that a team has 0 confidence. I hope they figure something out soon. I like these guys.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#134
Who is drafting now?
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
October 15 2015 22:06 GMT
#135
Yawar, apparently. If ever there were a sign of desperation.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 22:53:21
October 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#136
man the life of a t3 NA team is suffering

they gotta kick TC.

But holy crap, when Yawar is on he is just godmode
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#137
On October 15 2015 23:19 Krishan.bif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 21:09 rabidch wrote:
On October 15 2015 01:21 SFDuality wrote:
Bulba played well throughout the qualifiers. TC made some mistakes, but people are acting like the losses are all because of him, which isn't true. Yawar played great one game and awful the next. Aui... was Aui. He did Aui things, both good and bad. Biryu, though... I don't recall a single game where Biryu had any sort of impact. Sure, part of that is his position and farm, but he also makes a lot of mechanical mistakes a professional player absolutely should not make. I don't know exactly what he brings to the table for DC, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking the team would be better off without him.

surprised only one guy mentioned aui, who made some extremely bad decisions in game 2. his ultimate was everything for DC to win a teamfight, every teamfight they won involved poison novas hititng 3 or more people and every teamfight they lost involved poison nova hitting maybe one person or nobody at all. i didnt understand why he didnt get a blink dagger despite sitting on 15k+ networth

Bkb. Actually, their entire lineup that game was countered by bkbs. Their drafting, among other things, has been shit. Especially that one game against c9 where they drafted carry (???) furion against ns/ember, with nyx still in the pool. That was really dumb.

low duration bkbs only mitigate some damage (5 seconds of 110 magic damage) of poison nova, it doesnt do anything to the poison nova buff itself, meaning they will still end up taking 11 seconds of 110 magic damage. for an aoe spell that can hit the entire enemy team that is huge.

aui did realize that he needed blink dagger but he bought it way too late, after they had lost several teamfights and right before the end of the game
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 16 2015 04:29 GMT
#138
I really like Yawar so I hope this team can work out. I also hope that people can keep the flaming to a bare minimum.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
October 22 2015 07:55 GMT
#139
Apparently they will replace c9 in nanyang! Oh yeah first LAN! Time to fail in the big stage!

Also yawar can't go so he's being replaced by ush? I haven't been big on him, so I don't know how I feel about this. Cautiously optimistic, I guess.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 22 2015 10:21 GMT
#140
If the full roster of c9 can't go, I don't see why you should replace with 4/5 roster of DC. Might as well get a stand in for c9. Mercenary demon or something.
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