On August 11 2015 05:24 trollcenter wrote: Lots of fathers leave their children tho
generally speaking, they don't leave their children to go back to their abusive parents' house. they left because CIS teams are supposedly poorly managed.
bdn back to secret s4 back to alliance puppey back to navi kuro back to mouz zai and rtz back to eg
I guess this is trolling because Mouz doesn't exist, but the two things here I could actually see happening are Notail back to Secret (I see this as extremely likely) and possibly (but unlikely) S4 back to Alliance to replace F7ckingMad as drafter/captain.
Whatever happens to Secret, with a core of Puppey, Kuro, and Notail they're going to have their pick of top tier European talent.
It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.
I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.
On August 11 2015 09:53 son1dow wrote: It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.
I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.
It's not weird at all. When he was on Secret he played like a god. On C9 his play was mediocre. Also C9 fans have a tendency to assume the supporting cast on C9 is doing crazy off-script stuff when bad things happen. So, for example, BDN doing a relocate that ended poorly is his fault, where it might have been just what he was told to do.
On August 11 2015 09:53 son1dow wrote: It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.
I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.
He was really good on Fnatic. I felt like N0tail was being turned into some new PLD when he joined C9, and it didn't really suit him.
Those are good points, perhaps the style C9 wanted notail to play didn't suit him, perhaps he lacked leadership in a team that is famous for not having it. However I did watch all of C9's games and I saw him making quite a few bad plays. Perhaps the risks he takes would work better in a better team, but I doubt they're good plays generally.
bdn back to secret s4 back to alliance puppey back to navi kuro back to mouz zai and rtz back to eg
Poor Kuro, back to a team that doesnt exist ;_;
At least he has teammates, n0tail is going to have to pick Meepo every game apparently.
Poor n0tail, he is like going back to his cheater ex-girlfriend and trying to believe he will not get cheated again, but we all know how it will end... poor him.
On August 11 2015 03:17 Beirut wrote: I think the squad - and maybe even the brand itself - is done in its current form.
Seems like Kuroky and Puppey are off to a 'new' team. Maybe even back to Navi if Xboct leaves, I could see a lineup like (1) Kuro (2) Dendi (3) ?? (4) Sonneiko (5) Puppey with Clement obviously as drafter/captain. Maybe the last year of the Navi experience left too sour a taste in their mouth, but Sonneiko is the kind of player that can help you win a TI. However maybe they're looking for a fresh mid player, and don't feel like Dendi has it in him anymore. And of course they might want to stick with the brand they helped build and create, at which point they would just rebuild Secret with Europeans. Who knows though. I saw Kuroky talking a lot with FATA after elimination; could just be that they're both German.
Zai and Arteezy seem to be a package deal. It seems likely that Zai might take off for the first major or two, but I doubt he would leave the scene altogether through TI6. Of course he's frustrated, disappointed, and exhausted, but there is likely going to be over $20 million at stake at TI6 and his player stock right now is really high. I think Arteezy is going to be the most sought after 'free agent' in the West, he can do anything he wants and create a new dream team around him if he has the chops to captain it; I think the last year has proven that he's not comfortable being a follower.
The real question mark is S4. It seems like he is perceived to be the big disappointment at TI5, and whether that's true or not I think his stock fell considerably with his performance on the main stage. Luckily he's a competent captain and drafter, so he'll easily find a place to play on a European squad. It seems like there are a ton of great Scandinavian players, and maybe the time is right for a new Scandinavian/Swedish superteam with members from NiP/4Anchors/etc.
Is Zai hungry for it? Enough to scrim? There was a great quote by Sir alex ferguson about the toughest thing after winning is making sure the squad is still hungry for it.
On August 11 2015 09:53 son1dow wrote: It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.
I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.
Notail played absolutely astounding on Secret. I don't know if this is because his play style is more suited to the way Secret played or leadership issues but his play took a steep nosedive on C9. Notail is pretty good at this game.
Reason why N0tail was so good in Secret is his synergy with s4. Their play-styles and movements fitted together very well, giving s4 boost he needed to perform.