generally speaking, they don't leave their children to go back to their abusive parents' house. they left because CIS teams are supposedly poorly managed.

Beirut

United States673 Posts

August 10 2015 21:36 GMT

#1766

On August 11 2015 04:50 trollcenter wrote:

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bdn back to secret
s4 back to alliance
puppey back to navi
kuro back to mouz
zai and rtz back to eg

I guess this is trolling because Mouz doesn't exist, but the two things here I could actually see happening are Notail back to Secret (I see this as extremely likely) and possibly (but unlikely) S4 back to Alliance to replace F7ckingMad as drafter/captain.

Whatever happens to Secret, with a core of Puppey, Kuro, and Notail they're going to have their pick of top tier European talent.

Faruko

Chile34173 Posts

August 10 2015 22:19 GMT

#1767

On August 11 2015 04:50 trollcenter wrote:

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bdn back to secret
s4 back to alliance
puppey back to navi
kuro back to mouz
zai and rtz back to eg

Poor Kuro, back to a team that doesnt exist ;_;

FHDH

United States7023 Posts

August 10 2015 22:21 GMT

#1768

On August 11 2015 07:19 Faruko wrote:

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Poor Kuro, back to a team that doesnt exist ;_;

At least he has teammates, n0tail is going to have to pick Meepo every game apparently.

son1dow

Lithuania322 Posts

August 11 2015 00:53 GMT

#1769

It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.

I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.

FHDH

United States7023 Posts

August 11 2015 01:15 GMT

#1770

On August 11 2015 09:53 son1dow wrote:
It's wierd to see the amount of posts dedicated to dreams of secret and notail reunion. In most c9 threads, it is commonly agreed (by me too) that notail was the second weakest link in C9, after bone7.

I wonder if that's c9 guys actually watching c9 games or something else.

It's not weird at all. When he was on Secret he played like a god. On C9 his play was mediocre. Also C9 fans have a tendency to assume the supporting cast on C9 is doing crazy off-script stuff when bad things happen. So, for example, BDN doing a relocate that ended poorly is his fault, where it might have been just what he was told to do.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

August 11 2015 01:22 GMT

#1771

On August 11 2015 04:58 hariooo wrote:
why on earth would EG change now

ee+rtz anime reunion hype plz.

also kings of strategy lmao -_-

i think only reason why EG would change is for fear to "retire" (extended break)

Mensol

14536 Posts

August 11 2015 02:04 GMT

#1772

im happy that Puppey working with this guy

im eager to see CSGO team.

Evander Berry Wall

United States1137 Posts

August 11 2015 02:30 GMT

#1773

He was really good on Fnatic. I felt like N0tail was being turned into some new PLD when he joined C9, and it didn't really suit him.

son1dow

Lithuania322 Posts

August 11 2015 02:56 GMT

#1774

Those are good points, perhaps the style C9 wanted notail to play didn't suit him, perhaps he lacked leadership in a team that is famous for not having it. However I did watch all of C9's games and I saw him making quite a few bad plays. Perhaps the risks he takes would work better in a better team, but I doubt they're good plays generally.

triplewgf

Philippines13 Posts

August 11 2015 03:14 GMT

#1775

Assuming RTZ and Zai leave, would it be better to move Kky to carry, or keep him as a support w/Puppey?

I for one agree with everyone hoping BDN comes back... That Wisp-Morphling game where kky went 17-0 was a joy to watch

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

August 11 2015 04:05 GMT

#1776

I would assume the brand stays with puppey and kky also stays with puppey. I wouldn't be surprised to see BDN back to secret.

My money's on an rtzEE team, with Zai to "retire" and then get bored of school and come back later.

s4 idk.

Racket

3023 Posts

August 11 2015 06:45 GMT

#1777

On August 11 2015 07:21 FHDH wrote:

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At least he has teammates, n0tail is going to have to pick Meepo every game apparently.

Poor n0tail, he is like going back to his cheater ex-girlfriend and trying to believe he will not get cheated again, but we all know how it will end... poor him.

Sabu113

United States11078 Posts

August 11 2015 08:45 GMT

#1778

On August 11 2015 03:17 Beirut wrote:
I think the squad - and maybe even the brand itself - is done in its current form.

Seems like Kuroky and Puppey are off to a 'new' team. Maybe even back to Navi if Xboct leaves, I could see a lineup like (1) Kuro (2) Dendi (3) ?? (4) Sonneiko (5) Puppey with Clement obviously as drafter/captain. Maybe the last year of the Navi experience left too sour a taste in their mouth, but Sonneiko is the kind of player that can help you win a TI. However maybe they're looking for a fresh mid player, and don't feel like Dendi has it in him anymore. And of course they might want to stick with the brand they helped build and create, at which point they would just rebuild Secret with Europeans. Who knows though. I saw Kuroky talking a lot with FATA after elimination; could just be that they're both German.

Zai and Arteezy seem to be a package deal. It seems likely that Zai might take off for the first major or two, but I doubt he would leave the scene altogether through TI6. Of course he's frustrated, disappointed, and exhausted, but there is likely going to be over $20 million at stake at TI6 and his player stock right now is really high. I think Arteezy is going to be the most sought after 'free agent' in the West, he can do anything he wants and create a new dream team around him if he has the chops to captain it; I think the last year has proven that he's not comfortable being a follower.

The real question mark is S4. It seems like he is perceived to be the big disappointment at TI5, and whether that's true or not I think his stock fell considerably with his performance on the main stage. Luckily he's a competent captain and drafter, so he'll easily find a place to play on a European squad. It seems like there are a ton of great Scandinavian players, and maybe the time is right for a new Scandinavian/Swedish superteam with members from NiP/4Anchors/etc.

Is Zai hungry for it? Enough to scrim? There was a great quote by Sir alex ferguson about the toughest thing after winning is making sure the squad is still hungry for it.

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2015 09:24 GMT

#1779

Notail played absolutely astounding on Secret. I don't know if this is because his play style is more suited to the way Secret played or leadership issues but his play took a steep nosedive on C9. Notail is pretty good at this game.

elagrion

Ukraine422 Posts

August 11 2015 09:37 GMT

#1780

Reason why N0tail was so good in Secret is his synergy with s4. Their play-styles and movements fitted together very well, giving s4 boost he needed to perform.