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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 28 2014 18:54 GMT
#341
man tinker plz get your shit together. i know they are exhausted but they still are pros...
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
October 28 2014 19:16 GMT
#342
amazing how today's and yesterday's perfomance might cost them a playoff spot on the summit

using bangfish and akroma as standins were funny and all, but really stupid
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 28 2014 19:20 GMT
#343
It's not the stand-ins' fault.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
October 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#344
Ofc it's not all their fault, but they lost NaVi's game because they choose 2 amateur standins.

Today's game and the Kompas one is on the team as whole.
Angeloidus
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation251 Posts
October 28 2014 19:38 GMT
#345
Did you see that game with stand-ins? It wasn't stand-ins fault they lost, but their core players were playing bad (Pajkatt and Sing). It was better to reschedule that game but who knows what made them decide to play, maybe no more time available.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 28 2014 21:51 GMT
#346
If they aren't in the summit as a result I"ll be rather sad
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 28 2014 21:53 GMT
#347
yeah me too, i want to see them at more lans. but they are playing so bad these last two days...
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 15:34:55
October 29 2014 15:34 GMT
#348
They're pretty much out, right?

Whoever wins between Empire and C9 got the 4th spot.

I mean, counting that Secret is not gonna lose every game they have to play.

Amazing run by PR though, congrats to them.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
October 29 2014 16:10 GMT
#349
Redemption team ftw!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 29 2014 16:52 GMT
#350
From 6-1 to 6-5, what a nice throw. Man this is really frustrating to watch as a Fan
villainzilla
Profile Joined July 2014
Philippines192 Posts
November 02 2014 14:18 GMT
#351


Chappy says that most, but not all of them are already signed with "a sponsor" and will be revealed rather soon.
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 02 2014 14:58 GMT
#352
Good interview. Chappy seems like he's got it together, which is a welcome change from some other e-sports team managers I've noticed.

Poor Bulba. Always so "special".
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 02 2014 18:05 GMT
#353
That was qojqva's worst game in his entire career. Holy shit, that was bad.

Hopefully they can win 3 in a row, but that will be really hard
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
November 02 2014 18:12 GMT
#354
They have been saying 'soon' for a couple months....
AdministratorTeam Liquid VP of Esports
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 02 2014 19:12 GMT
#355
boring games

horrible perfomance

the team really need to think about their mentality about this meta. wtf bulba think supports need to be so passive in the early game? they did NOTHING in all games against navi. specially stupid on game3 since they had a good early/mid

and it's not about gameplay, it's really strategy.
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
November 02 2014 19:18 GMT
#356
The team is just getting worse and worse. Qojqva started out so well, he's been shit lately. Pajkatt can play like 3 heroes and they can't go a series without picking viper. Sing can't stop feeding. They draft heroes like LC and viper but then grab midas and farm instead of being active. If they want to be passive like they are every game they should draft for it. Get rid of Pajkatt, grab a new support player and put Bubla offlane, let Sing go mid and let Qojqva carry. Let people play in their best roles, as of now I don't see them getting consistent.
Ratchets, designer jackets
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 02 2014 19:20 GMT
#357
this strategy of playing for late late late game only works when they get necro, and only because the hero is fucking broken in the late game

i think this lineup can work, but they really need to find new strategys and stop the farm fest
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
November 02 2014 19:39 GMT
#358
I think Tinker's problem is that they have 2 cores that crave farm and passive play. This puts a lot of pressure on their third core and 2 supports to create the space. It's kind of a shitty formula because the 2 supports are often not given anything, while Sing is not always given a good lane to start.

C9 worked because Aui was always given farm, and Sing + Bone were cores that like to be active. And Envy is not exactly a passive player too.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 20:15:25
November 02 2014 20:14 GMT
#359
On November 03 2014 04:39 DucK- wrote:
I think Tinker's problem is that they have 2 cores that crave farm and passive play. This puts a lot of pressure on their third core and 2 supports to create the space. It's kind of a shitty formula because the 2 supports are often not given anything, while Sing is not always given a good lane to start.

C9 worked because Aui was always given farm, and Sing + Bone were cores that like to be active. And Envy is not exactly a passive player too.

yeah i agree. their team composition wont work out if they keep on playing this way
qojqva got hyped way too much. farming is what he does best and thats all he does. justl ike in liquid he gets midas way too often imho and thats why they often cant contest early pushes
i dont watch pajkatt that closely so i cant comment on his play
FTD
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
November 02 2014 20:27 GMT
#360
people suggested sing on a support, and I think it could work

TT could use the aggression sing would bring as a support, but not sure if bulba wants to go back to offlane or sing play as support (although Sing always seemed the kind of guys who would just play whatever position as long as it's the best for the team)
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