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NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
June 03 2014 03:57 GMT
#121
That is a load of BS...Fear is/was the face of EG.Dota NA Dota etc etc. he has done so much for the growth of the team and the scene.

Don't forget Fear is the only person who has still been on EG since pretty much forever. They are loyal to him and they treat their players well. I call BS on what that reddit post was saying.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
June 03 2014 07:17 GMT
#122
I mean, it's possible that it's true. It is NA Dota after all, nothing is out of the question.

But until there's an actual reputable source there's no point even discussing it.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 03 2014 07:44 GMT
#123
I just hope that after TI4, Fear is able to go back to pursuing his dream, because the guy has worked so damn hard and is very talented. What Monolith wrote about Fear couldn't be more accurate re: the pillar of NA dota.

On June 03 2014 12:27 Caladbolg wrote:
I still think that EG can only go far with Fear. Without a top tier carry player like him (with impeccable mechanics AND late-game decision making), no team can really go far in TI4.


I think Mason is 95% of what Fear was in terms of being a carry, so it's impossible to blame or credit TI4 results on whatever happens.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 14:01:39
June 03 2014 13:58 GMT
#124
On June 03 2014 16:44 lolnoty wrote:
I just hope that after TI4, Fear is able to go back to pursuing his dream, because the guy has worked so damn hard and is very talented. What Monolith wrote about Fear couldn't be more accurate re: the pillar of NA dota.

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On June 03 2014 12:27 Caladbolg wrote:
I still think that EG can only go far with Fear. Without a top tier carry player like him (with impeccable mechanics AND late-game decision making), no team can really go far in TI4.


I think Mason is 95% of what Fear was in terms of being a carry, so it's impossible to blame or credit TI4 results on whatever happens.


When it comes down to it, games are going to go long against heavy hitting teams like DK, iG, NB, and whoever. Having someone like mason who excels at early midgame like every other budding chinese team doesnt help there at all. However, Fear, unlike everyone else on EG except for universe, has the experience to handle situations that arise in the late game. They need someone who understands the lategame and fear has played dota since there was only late game. Where one pick off just ends your entire run.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2014 14:08 GMT
#125
On June 03 2014 22:58 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 16:44 lolnoty wrote:
I just hope that after TI4, Fear is able to go back to pursuing his dream, because the guy has worked so damn hard and is very talented. What Monolith wrote about Fear couldn't be more accurate re: the pillar of NA dota.

On June 03 2014 12:27 Caladbolg wrote:
I still think that EG can only go far with Fear. Without a top tier carry player like him (with impeccable mechanics AND late-game decision making), no team can really go far in TI4.


I think Mason is 95% of what Fear was in terms of being a carry, so it's impossible to blame or credit TI4 results on whatever happens.


When it comes down to it, games are going to go long against heavy hitting teams like DK, iG, NB, and whoever. Having someone like mason who excels at early midgame like every other budding chinese team doesnt help there at all. However, Fear, unlike everyone else on EG except for universe, has the experience to handle situations that arise in the late game. They need someone who understands the lategame and fear has played dota since there was only late game. Where one pick off just ends your entire run.


in any major competition there is a big importance for a leader , when things get tough he can keep them togther where mason is a good player he isnt a leader (yet) and will not be consider one for the team , i think the mentality aspect is a big thing when you want to win the dota world cup , its not just talent mechanics that makes you a TI winner.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 03 2014 14:44 GMT
#126
On June 03 2014 23:08 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 22:58 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On June 03 2014 16:44 lolnoty wrote:
I just hope that after TI4, Fear is able to go back to pursuing his dream, because the guy has worked so damn hard and is very talented. What Monolith wrote about Fear couldn't be more accurate re: the pillar of NA dota.

On June 03 2014 12:27 Caladbolg wrote:
I still think that EG can only go far with Fear. Without a top tier carry player like him (with impeccable mechanics AND late-game decision making), no team can really go far in TI4.


I think Mason is 95% of what Fear was in terms of being a carry, so it's impossible to blame or credit TI4 results on whatever happens.


When it comes down to it, games are going to go long against heavy hitting teams like DK, iG, NB, and whoever. Having someone like mason who excels at early midgame like every other budding chinese team doesnt help there at all. However, Fear, unlike everyone else on EG except for universe, has the experience to handle situations that arise in the late game. They need someone who understands the lategame and fear has played dota since there was only late game. Where one pick off just ends your entire run.


in any major competition there is a big importance for a leader , when things get tough he can keep them togther where mason is a good player he isnt a leader (yet) and will not be consider one for the team , i think the mentality aspect is a big thing when you want to win the dota world cup , its not just talent mechanics that makes you a TI winner.


liquid is a pretty perfect example of this
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
June 03 2014 14:58 GMT
#127
I wonder how did you draw the conclusion of Fear being the leader of EG? Being old makes you leader? Just asking.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2014 23:25 GMT
#128
PPD is the captain currently, and he's done a very nice job in the role. But Fear was previously captain and it's been stated that after early game everyone on the team will make some calls, some people more than others. While other people aren't the "leader" those players can still lead in certain situations. When your back is against the wall and someone on the team has a sound gameplan to get you out of it you let them lead and execute that, so in effect all the members on the team can lead at some points in time. The fact that Fear has been around since the dawn of time means he's pretty much seen it all before and maybe the others on the team haven't seen yet and he's got an idea of dealing with it. So in that sense he's got the experience to lead if necessary but it doesn't make him "The Leader" or anything.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 04 2014 06:24 GMT
#129
Any news on whether or not Fear will do anything at TI4? It would be pretty cool to see him cast or get on the analyst panel.
braincandy
Profile Joined February 2013
Philippines179 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 13:47:51
June 04 2014 13:47 GMT
#130
On June 04 2014 15:24 Kishin2 wrote:
Any news on whether or not Fear will do anything at TI4? It would be pretty cool to see him cast or get on the analyst panel.


someone confirmed that Fear mentioned on his stream that he will be coaching EG on Summit LAN

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/279jx6/confirmed_fear_attending_summit_as_eg_coach/
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
June 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#131


Fear carrying the team like normal
crunchbite
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia70 Posts
June 09 2014 13:52 GMT
#132
On June 09 2014 22:43 Chewbacca. wrote:
https://twitter.com/FearDotA/status/475842284928262144

Fear carrying the team like normal


Should retire undefeated.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 09 2014 14:49 GMT
#133
EG.Notepad! But ye, watching Fear analyzing reps after EG games was awesome to see
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 09 2014 18:24 GMT
#134
Fear said that The Summit was a trial run for him as EG's coach. Considering they won, I think its safe to say they keep him as coach through TI4
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 19:21:34
June 09 2014 19:20 GMT
#135
Given that they've proven themselves contenders for TI4, an extra pair of eyes to analize replays (and whatever else a coach is expected to do) is bound to do them good.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 09 2014 19:29 GMT
#136
Wonder what kind of prize money cut the coach gets?
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 09 2014 21:04 GMT
#137
On June 10 2014 04:29 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Wonder what kind of prize money cut the coach gets?


iirc eg will split TI4 pot 7 ways

5 players
1 coach
1 organization
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TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
June 09 2014 21:10 GMT
#138
is it organization or the manager (charlie)?
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 10 2014 18:28 GMT
#139
On June 10 2014 06:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 04:29 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Wonder what kind of prize money cut the coach gets?


iirc eg will split TI4 pot 7 ways

5 players
1 coach
1 organization


That's good to hear. Frankly, fear and other pro players are pretty amazing to me. To pursue a dream that long and that hard, foregoing a "real" job, and putting in countless hours of practice... It would be disgusting if he didn't get a dime. Cheers to him.
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zzdd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States484 Posts
June 10 2014 20:17 GMT
#140
On June 10 2014 06:04 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 04:29 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Wonder what kind of prize money cut the coach gets?


iirc eg will split TI4 pot 7 ways

5 players
1 coach
1 organization

Is this speculation or do you actually know?
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