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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On July 19 2014 07:05 holycrapitsTony wrote: I miss Fear~~ Would love to see him playing right now, but they're doing fantastic so far without him. Are they really playing without him, though? | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On July 19 2014 05:26 AwfuL_ wrote: This post is pretty old but it's pretty sad to see that some people still think putting your best players on support is a waste. It doesn't matter where your best player goes if the rest of the team is completely clueless and pisses the game away. If put them on 1 and the rest of your team feeds the game before you can get online you lose. If you play support and try and give the cores space it doesn't matter if those cores do nothing with that space you lose. Thats how the old EG worked, Fear was the only player that wouldn't throw games like it was their job, you're damned if you do damned if you don't. IF you put him on support (and there are better supports than him out there) you need a team trusted and disciplined enough to follow the game plan and do what they're told when they're told, you can't have people yoloing it and fucking about. You follow the blue print your team has for a game. You can do that, or you can play to his strengths and have him carry where you don't need to worry about him doing his job. His decision making is some of the best in the scene, you throw him on 1 and you're rock solid there, done deal. On top of the decision making you also have a guy who isn't one dimensional like many carries out there can be. He can play ricer carries obviously but he's also proven able to play other things in the safe lane like BH, Tide, Ursa, etc. He's used to the new meta of the mid taking the farm and your safe lane being a playmaker or team fighter. Many carry players are only starting to catch up there. You CAN throw him anywhere but you let someone play to their strengths, let them give you as big of an advantage as they can. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
Go Go Go | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
On August 01 2014 09:00 GranDGranT wrote: Chessie and Fear tried out by EG xD So, in short, he got booted from EG. Some facts: 1) Has the ability to play dota, given how much time he's been streaming lately 2) If post is true and he's trying out for EG, he wants to be playing for EG 3) He's not playing for EG I don't know, but EG's just seemed sketchy to me lately. The whole injury fiasco and then starting to stream pretty extensively like 2 days right after TI4. And Mason getting the boot right after TI just doesn't feel right either. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On August 05 2014 11:34 shizaep wrote: So, in short, he got booted from EG. Some facts: 1) Has the ability to play dota, given how much time he's been streaming lately 2) If post is true and he's trying out for EG, he wants to be playing for EG 3) He's not playing for EG I don't know, but EG's just seemed sketchy to me lately. The whole injury fiasco and then starting to stream pretty extensively like 2 days right after TI4. And Mason getting the boot right after TI just doesn't feel right either. How are they sketchy? All we know right now is that EG wanted to try out carry players, the position where they originally needed a stand-in for. They said so to Mason who, understandably, took that badly and left. Now EG is trying out players, including Fear. I don't really see why they should give the job to him on a silver platter just because he was part of the organisation until now. They need the best carry they can get, hopefully it's Fear, but if it isn't, then it's just sad, not sketchy or unwarranted. PS: Yesterday, Mason was playing captain's mode game with ppd, zai and RTZ, I don't think there is much bad blood between them. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 05 2014 22:48 Diavlo wrote: How are they sketchy? All we know right now is that EG wanted to try out carry players, the position where they originally needed a stand-in for. They said so to Mason who, understandably, took that badly and left. Now EG is trying out players, including Fear. I don't really see why they should give the job to him on a silver platter just because he was part of the organisation until now. They need the best carry they can get, hopefully it's Fear, but if it isn't, then it's just sad, not sketchy or unwarranted. PS: Yesterday, Mason was playing captain's mode game with ppd, zai and RTZ, I don't think there is much bad blood between them. You kinda give answer to ur own question. EG wants the best 1 (?) position player they can get. The story however was that Fear was only subtituted cuz of injury, which initially was announced wouldnt keep him away for more than a couple of weeks, but instead he stayed away for a lot longer, including TI, and he started streaming a lot right after it, which hints that EG just felt like they had a better chance with Mason playing, so put him in. Now that he surely recovered, and Mason expressed that he wont be playing, if the "cover" story was true, there wouldnt be any need for "tryouts", cuz he was never replaced or booted, just substituted because of "injury", from which he clearly recovered. Which story i called bullshit in the first place, but that's besides the point. Nothing wrong btw, with wanting the strongest player, it's jsut thar EG wants(ed) to sell it otherwise. | ||
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iruga
United States28 Posts
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ehFk
Canada53 Posts
Fear has been with EG since before TI2, and is respected by everyone on the team. He hasn't been treated poorly at all by the team and I am sure he would admit that. Plus he is still living in the EG house. Why would he be there if EG was being sketchy? Plus I think it is pretty obvious that he will be on the team playing carry for the next "season". | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
because things always have to have more drama in them than absolutely needed | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 09 2014 06:28 shizaep wrote: Yeah, I'd actually have no problems with it if Fear was back on the roster, as was said earlier. He was supposed to be just temporarily sitting out and then getting back to his spot after TI. That's not the case, however. He's trying out for EG, along with other players. Essentially, he got booted from the team and is fighting for his spot on the roster. This is the post-TI4 shuffle, it happens to every team...with so many free agents, you can look for the best options available. Hell, if he was on the active roster and was getting booted, it would suck, but it's still the norm for this time of year. But that's not the circumstance at all...he's been inactive for several months now, so they have to make sure he can play at a level that's up to the team's standards. And with other tourneys starting up soon, it's not like they can wait on Fear before they look at other players. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On August 09 2014 08:52 ahswtini wrote: Didn't ppd or someone say it was 95% decided that Fear was playing for EG? I've heard this but I wasn't watching when he said it. | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
Now he finally has a team that's capable of winning LANs and he gets booted from it. If Fear didn't build this team, ppd and zai would probably still be playing in some NA joindota cups with other noname players. Probably (slightly) better players than Fear that money can buy but where the fuck is the loyalty? | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
Probably (slightly) better players than Fear that money can buy but where the fuck is the loyalty? Not sure if you can find better carry players that speak English as the native language. | ||
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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