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OmniEulogy
Canada6591 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:04 BlackGosu wrote: Apparently Fear got kicked and he tried to join NAR LOL http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/24vzj9/log_of_arteezys_qa_on_stream/chba0d2 damn. Best of luck Fear  | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6225 Posts
That reddit link is just some guy wanking to himself and then a few people agreeing after Mason got confirmed for TI4, which proves nothing. Mason playing at TI has been likely for a long time. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On June 03 2014 07:47 opterown wrote: i've heard that it's common knowledge in high-level NA pubs that fear has been effectively kicked from EG for some time, and that his injury was a cover for mason staying? since EG think they are better with mason than fear. any further news/confirmation/otherwise about this? sucks hard for him =/ Sounds like utter bullshit to me. Wrist / arm injuries are kind of a thing in esports, so its not unlikely it would affect someone as big as Fear. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
High level Internet rumor trolling. Lol those are his only two post ever and he uses the "my dad works for Nintendo" excuse as evidence. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:19 Comeh wrote: Sounds like utter bullshit to me. Wrist / arm injuries are kind of a thing in esports, so its not unlikely it would affect someone as big as Fear. It seems a big concerted effort would have to be made for this to be true. Fear would have to be on board with getting fucked over and then keeping the charade going. Not saying anything, not telling EG to go fuck themselves, wearing the brace, using the electronic massager, going through with the recovery streams (1hour for 1 week, 2 hours for week 2, etc.). I've had tennis elbow, now it turns out he has this radial tunnel thing so I can't comment on that and what that pain is like compared to tennis elbow. With tennis elbow I could play games and did, pain might be sporadic but manageable, my arm was always resting on a solid surface and all that and I don't recall ever getting any pain based on time played or clicking, mine would only be moving my arm certain ways. My injury was from lifting, his was from OSU. While I did play through my injury for absolutely zero dollars his apparently isn't where it needs to be and I've never had that injury so I can't give an opinion on if he could or should play through the pain. But his pain came from clicking while mine did not. Now, assuming this rumor is true and it was all a charade that also doesn't explain why I talked with him about Tennis Elbow (when that was the diagnosis) for an hour. He's so committed to the bit that he's going to discuss the injury, what I did, what kind of brace I wore, etc with me for an hour? Charlie is going to have me email him about the injury? That seems pretty unlikely. Fear would have no incentive to spend that time talking things over to keep up appearances. It's not like I'm Slasher or CyborgMatt or something. On June 03 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote: That link sounds like a pile of BS that some reddit kid is just making up. I like how he tells other EG players to book mark and cleck back in a few weeks, rather than provide evidence. High level Internet rumor trolling. Basically this. The only part of the reddit thing that is verified is the Mason playing for Fear, since that part is right then everything else is right be some sort of osmosis! As mentioned in the news thread this is wild baseless speculation, typical of reddit, until proven otherwise. So far zero evidence has been given and logically the rumor makes no sense. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote: That link sounds like a pile of BS that some reddit kid is just making up. I like how he tells other EG players to book mark and cleck back in a few weeks, rather than provide evidence. High level Internet rumor trolling. Lol those are his only two post ever and he uses the "my dad works for Nintendo" excuse as evidence. do you not understand what a throwaway is? and posts like these are proving these true [–]cheami 6 points 3 hours ago Yup, all the casual people on r/dota2 will continue to deny it. Obvious for weeks now. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 03 2014 08:41 BlackGosu wrote: do you not understand what a throwaway is? and posts like these are proving these true [–]cheami 6 points 3 hours ago Yup, all the casual people on r/dota2 will continue to deny it. Obvious for weeks now. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply I understand what evidence is and that he provided none. And "I'm totally friends with eg players guy, trust me" doesn't count. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
On June 03 2014 09:08 BlackGosu wrote: that is true, but that would be self destruct. sure he takes down EG with him, but that is the end of his dota career. it'll ruin his image of trust and loyalty. ruining the chance of 4 other players who deserve win ti Highly doubt this, if match-fixing wasn't enough to end Solo's career I don't think Fear saying "EG fucked me 'cause they thought I wasn't good enough" would end his either. Obviously it would end his "career" with EG, but you specifically said his Dota career. Hope everything works out for the best for both parties, but I don't see Fear returning to EG unless they can't live up to the expectations with Mason. | ||
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
On June 03 2014 09:46 tauon wrote: I might be a discenting voice, but I think EG generally treats it's players fairly well and is quite loyal to them. I think a figure like Fear will always have a place on EG. Eh, it's not so much that I don't think Fear will have a place with EG when he returns from his injury, more so that I think if EG can live up to the hype (top 3 TI, wins one of the majors they will be participating in prior to TI4) that management will be hesitant to break that up. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure Mason has played more games with this line-up than Fear has, and if he hasn't yet he will have post-TI4. The one bad thing about LiquidDota is it's not as easy to tell where people are from. The best sports related analogy I can make is to American football (if you're not from the U.S. this probably won't make much sense, it happened awhile back), when Drew Bledsoe got injured and Tom Brady was named the starter. Even though Drew Bledsoe was still a good player, and only lost his starting job due to injury, Tom Brady was too good to replace and the team performed too well to warrant his replacement. The same can be said for Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick more recently. edit: this is all assuming Fear does return from his injury. Who knows, he could retire | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On June 03 2014 10:00 Omigawa wrote: Eh, it's not so much that I don't think Fear will have a place with EG when he returns from his injury, more so that I think if EG can live up to the hype (top 3 TI, wins one of the majors they will be participating in prior to TI4) that management will be hesitant to break that up. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure Mason has played more games with this line-up than Fear has, and if he hasn't yet he will have post-TI4. The one bad thing about LiquidDota is it's not as easy to tell where people are from. The best sports related analogy I can make is to American football (if you're not from the U.S. this probably won't make much sense, it happened awhile back), when Drew Bledsoe got injured and Tom Brady was named the starter. Even though Drew Bledsoe was still a good player, and only lost his starting job due to injury, Tom Brady was too good to replace and the team performed too well to warrant his replacement. The same can be said for Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick more recently. edit: this is all assuming Fear does return from his injury. Who knows, he could retire It can go the opposite way as well. Some teams will ride the hot hand. Player gets injured, replacement steps in and starts lighting it up and they don't want to mess with it, kids on fire lets roll with it for now. Other teams will say good work kid, you helped us when we needed it but our starter is back and he's our franchise QB so he's back in. The kid that was wrecking is out of a job there, but he's probably going to find a huge ass payday someplace else. Depends on the managements philosophy. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Esports, when we can't find drama, we just make it up. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
He did not get kicked. He did not try to join NAR. This is not a cover up. He was injured. The team found a sub. The sub played way better than anyone initially thought. The team realized Fear wasn't recovering quick enough for Ti4. The team decided to bench Fear, and let him pursue alternative interests, and go with who is giving them success. Back on topic to the forum: you're a great player Fear, but if you're injury is permanent, I would really love to see you as a caster / coach. Zero shame in that life whatsoever. GL | ||
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Caladbolg
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