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On October 18 2014 20:17 BillGates wrote:
Alliance just suck. I mean their early game is pretty much non existent, they can't gank or win lanes even if their lives depended on it.
I think they should just pick a jungler and a tanky defensive support to just sit in lane and protect Loda. For example get Enchantress or Enigma for the jungle, pick Ogre or Earthshaker to sit in lane and protect Loda. At least this way you won't just outright lose the lane massively and you get some farm and levels.
Pick a versatility mid that has big survability like Brew or DK and give Bulldog NP. Most people aren't banning it these days and its still a good hero, so if they can pick it they should.
Agreed , Clock is a hit or miss hero with no comeback mechanic (which they pick for AB every game now days), if you get behind with it your done , also it has 0 lategame impact which alot of games go late these days and 1 Loda`s Core isnt enough (only TB can 1v5 these days) , give AB NP and play some wisp & Sven which is defensive + killing potential , i loved their sven games.
those Naga fist pick every f*** game is just dumd predicatble and not going to bring their glory back.
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I honestly don't think the Naga is the problem. The Rubick picks are. Rubick is a weak laner that they always want. This locks one support to low team fight impact depending on enemy spells.
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Akke on his blog "One of the reasons we have been a bit inconsistent is that Chessie got injured which forced us to play with standins for both ESL (...) Joel (“apemother”) has been bootcamping with us the past days for Starladder, also helping us out with our online officials"
maybe cheesie might not come back ? it does reads like he will, but i dont understand why would a standin bootcamp with them (unless an economic arrange), to be fair, if alliance has 100 problems, his mid with apemother its not one of them, far from being s4 in its prime, but still pretty good.
Source: http://www.tv6.se/blog/akke/starladder-kiev
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Their early game is way too bad, they pretty much always lose it hard.
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Alliance have lost it i don't know the reasons behind it but all their games look 1 dimensional and if their game plan falls apart(this happens rather quick in the lane phases) they just rely on Loda hard carry the game be it on Naga/Terror or some other hero that goes out of control.
Sadly teams won't let them get away with that 4 out of 5 games teams will kill them before they get to the point they cannot stop that carry.
No idea who calls the shots now in Alliance but they need to expand their way of playing and also Bulldog needs to get more heroes under hes belt because Clock just does not work anymore and it is quite obvious teams will ban the Prophet/druid if given the chance vs Alliance.
Clock is a hero that if it doesn't snowball out of control is useless late game, and most of alliance game plan is to win late game if they lose their lane phases.. it just counter-act it self..
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Tomorrow:
EG beats C9, C9 beats tinker and Alliance beats C9, mostly to get some momentum started, but also to get a tiebreaker between the TT, C9 and A. Dreams.
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On October 22 2014 06:25 Faruko wrote:Akke on his blog "One of the reasons we have been a bit inconsistent is that Chessie got injured which forced us to play with standins for both ESL (...) Joel (“apemother”) has been bootcamping with us the past days for Starladder, also helping us out with our online officials" maybe cheesie might not come back ? it does reads like he will, but i dont understand why would a standin bootcamp with them (unless an economic arrange), to be fair, if alliance has 100 problems, his mid with apemother its not one of them, far from being s4 in its prime, but still pretty good. Source: http://www.tv6.se/blog/akke/starladder-kiev
Why would a standin NOT bootcamp with them? The standin needs to learn how they think and vice versa.
Also Kelly has said, can't remember where, that Chessie should be back with Alliance after starladder.
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It really seems like Loda and Bulldog doesn't get along that much? Maybe I read alot into this, but two things happened between them during the tinker match in Starseries just now. First off AB asked Loda for a thing (my guess it's a bag to reduce hand sweat or something), and Loda actually tossed it at AB not even giving him eye contact. Secondly they didn't interact postgame vs tinker, but hugging apemother, misery and shaking hands with akke etc. No interaction at all towards AB. I felt there was some tention between them.
But on a side note, I really like the new style they showed today vs execration and tinker. ALOT more agressive and thought through. I still feel alliance is lacking in capitalizing when they get early advantages. But that might come later on. I also feel Apemother is fitting alliance better than chessie.
Edit: spelling
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There last 2 games on starladder were actually pretty good.
Shifting mother to offline and giving mid to Bulldog was a good move. Bulldog actually pretty good on some of mid heroes, mey be not soo stellar in last hitting in mid, but actual play of mid very good. On other hand mother seems to perform better in a bit less stressful offline situation.
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On October 26 2014 10:59 Mutineer wrote:
There last 2 games on starladder were actually pretty good.
Shifting mother to offline and giving mid to Bulldog was a good move. Bulldog actually pretty good on some of mid heroes, mey be not soo stellar in last hitting in mid, but actual play of mid very good. On other hand mother seems to perform better in a bit less stressful offline situation.
I actually thought they should have switched s4 and bulldog that way before TI. Bulldog being very good on farm heroes and those being the majority of mids now a days.
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Game 3 vs C9 was seriously insulting to any fan. Stop playing like this, that was a shameful display.
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On October 26 2014 23:12 mordk wrote:
Game 3 vs C9 was seriously insulting to any fan. Stop playing like this, that was a shameful display.
It was weird way to go out , not playing to your strengths on a critical elimination game should only occur if you have that secert strat to beat that TB , which they clearly dont have as they first ban it 2nd game , for some reason this time they said "fuck it we can beat it" , not sure why....Apemother played very bad Jakiro tbh.
Loda on lycan never works out for them , not his type of hero (like viper isnt).
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On October 26 2014 23:12 mordk wrote:
Game 3 vs C9 was seriously insulting to any fan. Stop playing like this, that was a shameful display.
I agree, that was just awful.
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Good draft, bad execution.
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On October 26 2014 23:39 the bear jew wrote:
Good draft, bad execution.
Exactly my thought. When I saw the drafts I was very happy and thought "Yes, we got this!" But how wrong was I. Over all I was very impressed by alliance's loser bracket play, but last game was beyond logic.
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On October 25 2014 21:56 lookfirewood wrote:
It really seems like Loda and Bulldog doesn't get along that much? Maybe I read alot into this, but two things happened between them during the tinker match in Starseries just now. First off AB asked Loda for a thing (my guess it's a bag to reduce hand sweat or something), and Loda actually tossed it at AB not even giving him eye contact. Secondly they didn't interact postgame vs tinker, but hugging apemother, misery and shaking hands with akke etc. No interaction at all towards AB. I felt there was some tention between them.
But on a side note, I really like the new style they showed today vs execration and tinker. ALOT more agressive and thought through. I still feel alliance is lacking in capitalizing when they get early advantages. But that might come later on. I also feel Apemother is fitting alliance better than chessie.
Edit: spelling
I noticed it too, I have no evidence or anything of that sort but I think it has to do with bulldog always going for egm even though he isn't the right target.
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On October 29 2014 01:54 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2014 21:56 lookfirewood wrote:
It really seems like Loda and Bulldog doesn't get along that much? Maybe I read alot into this, but two things happened between them during the tinker match in Starseries just now. First off AB asked Loda for a thing (my guess it's a bag to reduce hand sweat or something), and Loda actually tossed it at AB not even giving him eye contact. Secondly they didn't interact postgame vs tinker, but hugging apemother, misery and shaking hands with akke etc. No interaction at all towards AB. I felt there was some tention between them.
But on a side note, I really like the new style they showed today vs execration and tinker. ALOT more agressive and thought through. I still feel alliance is lacking in capitalizing when they get early advantages. But that might come later on. I also feel Apemother is fitting alliance better than chessie.
Edit: spelling I noticed it too, I have no evidence or anything of that sort but I think it has to do with bulldog always going for egm even though he isn't the right target.
Is this true? Never noticed that during games. If so, it's really unprofessional and childish of AB.
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On October 29 2014 02:00 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2014 01:54 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:On October 25 2014 21:56 lookfirewood wrote:
It really seems like Loda and Bulldog doesn't get along that much? Maybe I read alot into this, but two things happened between them during the tinker match in Starseries just now. First off AB asked Loda for a thing (my guess it's a bag to reduce hand sweat or something), and Loda actually tossed it at AB not even giving him eye contact. Secondly they didn't interact postgame vs tinker, but hugging apemother, misery and shaking hands with akke etc. No interaction at all towards AB. I felt there was some tention between them.
But on a side note, I really like the new style they showed today vs execration and tinker. ALOT more agressive and thought through. I still feel alliance is lacking in capitalizing when they get early advantages. But that might come later on. I also feel Apemother is fitting alliance better than chessie.
Edit: spelling I noticed it too, I have no evidence or anything of that sort but I think it has to do with bulldog always going for egm even though he isn't the right target. Is this true? Never noticed that during games. If so, it's really unprofessional and childish of AB.
Yeah man, I don't remember exactly but there was a moment when both teams were smoked and AB wasted the lasso on es (egm) and then tinker came with ravage and just shrekt them. Again I'm not sure exactly when but there were other moments where instead of going for the important targets he chased egm and I think loda got frustrated because of that.
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thats the most hilariously made-up and unsubstantiated rumour imagineable
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On October 29 2014 03:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
thats the most hilariously made-up and unsubstantiated rumour imagineable
Haha, I'm by no means certain that this is the reason loda was acting weird towards bulldog but if I had to guess I'd guess bulldog chasing egm was the reason.
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