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On October 11 2014 23:20 molecu wrote:
Not sure about this whole "Loda beastly carry" thing. You funnel your resources into one player and it's not that hard for him to shine. Not saying that Loda is a bad carry player, but if their gameplan is making sure Loda gets his farm, he better damn carry this team into championship titles. MVP titles are cool and all, but those are just consolation prizes compared to getting first place.
Loda was praised (for once!) because he played very well, not because he had high gpm or kda which are often just the result of the rest of the team's ability to make space/keep the carry alive in fights.
But I do agree that most people (including casters) tend to praise carries for their farm which is often a very bad representation of their skill or value in the game.
A good example of that is everyone praising Black for his farm as AM against EG despite the fact that pretty much every good carry would have done just as well in the same situation. Black played very well but his farm was definitely not the highlight of his skill.
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On October 14 2014 06:39 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 23:20 molecu wrote:
Not sure about this whole "Loda beastly carry" thing. You funnel your resources into one player and it's not that hard for him to shine. Not saying that Loda is a bad carry player, but if their gameplan is making sure Loda gets his farm, he better damn carry this team into championship titles. MVP titles are cool and all, but those are just consolation prizes compared to getting first place. A good example of that is everyone praising Black for his farm as AM against EG despite the fact that pretty much every good carry would have done just as well in the same situation. Black played very well but his farm was definitely not the highlight of his skill.
The difference with loda is that he managed to get farm and actully carry his team when they weren't doing very well. Especially in that first game vs EG, they lost all their towers (which is ok in this patch) but they also lost the laning phase and early game overall but he still got a lot of farm.
Carrying when your team is doing well is easy but when you're losing it's hard.
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what happened to all those alliance games which should be played today?
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On October 16 2014 05:27 TayVaNo wrote:
what happened to all those alliance games which should be played today?
Chessie can't play as much as they want so they withdrew out of some tournaments.
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On October 16 2014 05:27 TayVaNo wrote:
what happened to all those alliance games which should be played today?
Only one was played in The Summit vs KPG afaik. They had smulgullig as standin for Chessie.
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I must say, the last game between Alliance and Empire tonight (thursday night) was a treat!
This "apemother" really fits into the aggressive style brought by Misery. Very entertaining game!
One of those games I'm gonna link to in the future whenever people bring out the rusty "Alliance can only rat dota omg" stuff.
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On October 17 2014 08:08 GinNtoniC wrote:
I must say, the last game between Alliance and Empire tonight (thursday night) was a treat!
This "apemother" really fits into the aggressive style brought by Misery. Very entertaining game!
One of those games I'm gonna link to in the future whenever people bring out the rusty "Alliance can only rat dota omg" stuff.
Link? 
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apemother playing instead of cheesie for starladder finals.
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At least now they can pick DP and not give it away all the time.
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On October 17 2014 18:04 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 08:08 GinNtoniC wrote:
I must say, the last game between Alliance and Empire tonight (thursday night) was a treat!
This "apemother" really fits into the aggressive style brought by Misery. Very entertaining game!
One of those games I'm gonna link to in the future whenever people bring out the rusty "Alliance can only rat dota omg" stuff. Link?
Not uploaded yet, but check dotacinema or other vod sites, should be up shortly.
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On October 18 2014 00:34 calippo wrote:
apemother playing instead of cheesie for starladder finals.
Source?
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On October 18 2014 03:31 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 00:34 calippo wrote:
apemother playing instead of cheesie for starladder finals. Source?
Probably because Chessie was getting back surgery right before ESL NY.
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On October 18 2014 04:46 cheese sandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 03:31 lookfirewood wrote:On October 18 2014 00:34 calippo wrote:
apemother playing instead of cheesie for starladder finals. Source? Probably because Chessie was getting back surgery right before ESL NY.
Yepp. But a confirmed source would still be a nice addon.
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... aaand just as I was starting to get hyped about their play they disgrace themselves in a roflstomp vs Power Rangers. Oh well.
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On October 18 2014 05:34 lookfirewood wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 04:46 cheese sandwich wrote:On October 18 2014 03:31 lookfirewood wrote:On October 18 2014 00:34 calippo wrote:
apemother playing instead of cheesie for starladder finals. Source? Probably because Chessie was getting back surgery right before ESL NY. Yepp. But a confirmed source would still be a nice addon.
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On October 18 2014 05:36 GinNtoniC wrote:
... aaand just as I was starting to get hyped about their play they disgrace themselves in a roflstomp vs Power Rangers. Oh well.
When PR gives their 110% i would say they are easily a top tier team
sadly PR doesnt do that often enough and you see them losing to some low tier teams
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On October 18 2014 05:36 GinNtoniC wrote:
... aaand just as I was starting to get hyped about their play they disgrace themselves in a roflstomp vs Power Rangers. Oh well.
Dood pr is a legit team now.
Seriously they are by far the most underrated team right now. I'm not exactly sure how good they are but they are really good for sure. Going to have to wait for them to play in a lan event to tell.
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On October 18 2014 09:41 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 05:36 GinNtoniC wrote:
... aaand just as I was starting to get hyped about their play they disgrace themselves in a roflstomp vs Power Rangers. Oh well. Dood pr is a legit team now. Seriously they are by far the most underrated team right now. I'm not exactly sure how good they are but they are really good for sure. Going to have to wait for them to play in a lan event to tell.
PR have always almost been a legit team, that are behind top teams but can always beat a topteam if they do their A game.
I wonder what world ppl are living in if they see PR as a Bad team.
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On October 18 2014 07:27 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 05:36 GinNtoniC wrote:
... aaand just as I was starting to get hyped about their play they disgrace themselves in a roflstomp vs Power Rangers. Oh well. When PR gives their 110% i would say they are easily a top tier team sadly PR doesnt do that often enough and you see them losing to some low tier teams
Hehe I never said I didn't consider PR to be a good team, that was your interpretation.
What I did say was that Alliance got roflstomped. In this case because they were totally predictable by 1st picking Naga and running the 4 protect 1 strat that they've been relying on the past month.
PR played aggressively and punished it. Alliance looked completely lost.
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Alliance just suck. I mean their early game is pretty much non existent, they can't gank or win lanes even if their lives depended on it.
I think they should just pick a jungler and a tanky defensive support to just sit in lane and protect Loda. For example get Enchantress or Enigma for the jungle, pick Ogre or Earthshaker to sit in lane and protect Loda. At least this way you won't just outright lose the lane massively and you get some farm and levels.
Pick a versatility mid that has big survability like Brew or DK and give Bulldog NP. Most people aren't banning it these days and its still a good hero, so if they can pick it they should.
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