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zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 27 2016 16:00 GMT
#2921
On May 28 2016 00:51 GinNtoniC wrote:
Is the Alliance game coming up after VP vs TSpirit?

In liquidpedia it shows that it is coming in 20:00 CEST
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 27 2016 16:02 GMT
#2922
This fu**ing schedule keeps changing all the time and depending on which site I check... 😕
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
May 27 2016 16:13 GMT
#2923
On May 28 2016 01:02 GinNtoniC wrote:
This fu**ing schedule keeps changing all the time and depending on which site I check... 😕

Ok apparently the A game has started sinse 40 mins ago.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 16:39 GMT
#2924
Nice , didnt fall for the Puck mid kinda stuff and went with a DK that actually scales late game , S4 even hit creeps and farmed really nice , AB was a beast on doom wrecking his 1v1 vs DS and EGM rubik is a pleasure to watch
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
May 27 2016 17:32 GMT
#2925
GAEM ANYTIME
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 18:53 GMT
#2926
Stop trying to make that Loda LC happen
He sucks on it AND it isn't a strong hero now
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 18:53 GMT
#2927
As i say they didnt fall for the puck mid shit , they fall for it again , and LC no less.... god dammit that was crazy bad drafting from Alliance ....
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 18:58 GMT
#2928
On May 28 2016 03:53 LemOn wrote:
Stop trying to make that Loda LC happen
He sucks on it AND it isn't a strong hero now


They pick puck way too much , i dont believe that after seeing the meta change SO much and practicing day and night its back to Chen/LD/Puck openings its really crazy to see......
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 27 2016 19:43 GMT
#2929
Tuned it now, how the boys playin? :D
The Real Power~
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 27 2016 20:01 GMT
#2930
VP first, then AF... man we're kinda screwed atm
The Real Power~
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 27 2016 20:05 GMT
#2931
That shit wasn't pretty. They still look all over the place with their drafts. Confidence is claerly lacking.
Harsh though to see that game 2 decided by the Phoenix Egg not popping TWICE in crucial situations (by a 0.00001 sec margin).

Bright side: Expectations are low for Manila!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:06 GMT
#2932
They are playing bad , the good thing they got outdrafted in game 1 hard so it didnt matter , in g2 they had some of the worst laning games i ever seen , Puck winning vs a viper , solo NS dominating Spec + Phnx and a free farming Jug , the game progressed into [A] playing well from behind clawing their way back just to make some silly decisions and unforutante phnx eggs in the end too bad they couldve won the game , but props to AF they looked like the better team today.
If this is the shape we are coming to manila with .... this is going to be sad times for us
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:07 GMT
#2933
On May 28 2016 05:05 GinNtoniC wrote:
That shit wasn't pretty. They still look all over the place with their drafts. Confidence is claerly lacking.
Harsh though to see that game 2 decided by the Phoenix Egg not popping TWICE in crucial situations (by a 0.00001 sec margin).

Bright side: Expectations are low for Manila!


Cant have lower expectations then what i have for them , one thing about [A] they play great on lans !
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 27 2016 20:20 GMT
#2934
I think that just one thing showed today: dedication is a huge factor to win games.

AF are a team full of players who grind every day several hours their solo mmr, that's the best way to improve (Madara is a fucking beast nowadays, i remember him half a year ago, he improved like a monster).

Meanwhile, the boys waste too much time in low mmr games, or in party games that aren't that useful.

That's the real reason we're bad atm. Except EGM, other players aren't solo practicing enough.
The Real Power~
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 27 2016 20:40 GMT
#2935
On May 28 2016 05:20 Zea! wrote:
I think that just one thing showed today: dedication is a huge factor to win games.

AF are a team full of players who grind every day several hours their solo mmr, that's the best way to improve (Madara is a fucking beast nowadays, i remember him half a year ago, he improved like a monster).

Meanwhile, the boys waste too much time in low mmr games, or in party games that aren't that useful.

That's the real reason we're bad atm. Except EGM, other players aren't solo practicing enough.

Honestly, do we know this?
Bulldog grinds a lot. I think S4 does so too.
Loda and Akke have never streamed, but Loda has never struck me as someone who's semi-dedicated.
He's always been this "This is my career, I'm in it to be the best" and has at times lashed out at people treating what they do as a 2nd rate job. Hard to imagine him not being serious about practise.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but these are kind of baseless speculations at best - accusations at worst.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 20:45:50
May 27 2016 20:45 GMT
#2936
It's not baseless at all... Loda mostly plays party games with EGM, Bulldog was very dedicated till SL (which they win), after that he stopped his grinding to 8000 (he was 7800+ at one point in SL times) and started to just party with s4+Nara or play low mmr games (international ranked, or some of his smurf at 6k).
S4 stopped for a LONG time to play on his main after he reached 8k.
Akke plays very few games of solo mmr cause he doesn't like it as he said.

EGM is the only one who played a lot of solo and party games (he reached 7k as support not long ago) and honestly, it shows in games, he's the one who's playing better out of all of them.

You can just check dotabuff games
The Real Power~
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
May 27 2016 20:46 GMT
#2937
man that was rough.

i think the general air is that in competitive, their strategy and hero pool (as well as successes) are more restricted to what bulldog's pool is like. which is fine. but everybody else seems like they need to be playing differently as well.

in-game decision making is their strong suit. i hope it becomes one of their many strong points and not just their one and only compared to other teams.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 27 2016 20:55 GMT
#2938
On May 28 2016 05:46 nanaoei wrote:
man that was rough.

i think the general air is that in competitive, their strategy and hero pool (as well as successes) are more restricted to what bulldog's pool is like. which is fine. but everybody else seems like they need to be playing differently as well.

in-game decision making is their strong suit. i hope it becomes one of their many strong points and not just their one and only compared to other teams.


AB plays all the usual suspects in the offlane , he was the bright spot in these qualifiers , S4 was underwhelming and Loda as well , S4 due to drafts AND gameplay.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2016 23:00 GMT
#2939
It does seem like S4 and Loda need a lot more practice. S4 is behind on farm so much... hard to see that being the case if he kept spamming heroes he plays non-stop. Same with Loda, he doesn't seem on point on most heroes, making weird mistakes and often not finding the farm.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-28 05:33:27
May 28 2016 05:32 GMT
#2940
It's what I have been saying. Alliance gameplay has not progressed even when they won wca and SL. They have been stagnant for a long time. I'd say they are at the same level gameplay wise when pajkatt and mad was still in their team. They win games primarily because of strong drafts and strategy. They are reliant on winning the tactical battle. But when they get normal even drafts, their poor gameplay shows.

The team has not improved, and I think they need lots of practice. Otherwise, they should just pray that they find a new winning strategical formula.
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