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DucK-
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 26 2016 06:39 nayumi wrote: The boy can finish top 4 at TI for sure. Beating OG/Liquid is a still a big ask. I don't think we ever played against Newbee recently but on paper they're the favourite so I'd still give them the edge. MVP and Wings are definitely beatable, we just need a solid draft and refrain from going full davai and we'd be fine. Edit: Though it's likely that Navi will face OG in the first KO round, gets booted to LB and matched with Liquid so yea ... Dota god can be a dick sometimes. Not exactly how it turned out but we did lose to OG in Group stage which resulted in us having to meey Liquid in BO1. I should stop jinxing out boys XD | ||
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DucK-
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 06 2016 12:53 DucK- wrote: ROFL beat liquid and we have to beat eg/newbee. Con fucking grats again. Bulba the MMR Assasin sends his regards. In seriousness, if they play more like the team that played it close to OG, they can definitely beat Liquid and Newbee who I would expect to be their next opponents. That said, they get one shot, and have to not fuck it up. | ||
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FreakyDroid
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DucK-
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FreakyDroid
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DucK-
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On August 06 2016 19:44 FreakyDroid wrote: When NaVi has a good draft, Ditya isnt so bad. But he still gets picked off many times in crucial moments. In the last game vs OG, General and Artstyle also got picked off at few crucial moments, but this happens only when they play vs OG, versus other teams they are usually on point with positioning and map awareness. I think one of the biggest issues with NaVi is that when IO, SK and Huskar are banned they dont have 2-3 other heroes that they are scary on. Their drow strat still scary though. The aggro early on is so intense. But yea. I think if every team gave navi io and SK, they will win TI easily lol | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
But honestly it seems like this is the most random ti ever. But if we are talking about replacing players, ditya ra might be the only one AND thats if you can get either ramzesss or resolut1on, out of the cis scenes those 2 are the only ones that could upgrade navis line up as a whole. Or go for a more "european team" In all honestly, navi has the best they can work with, the cis scene is in shambles and theres not enough talent to pick from... If Xboct, funn1k and company would be as good as they were in ti3 and beforw, they could easily be a top tier team, but they are not and you have to work with what you have. Not to mention, dota 2 is random as fuck nowadays, and im not having as much fun as i had in other times, it seems like nobody knows what to do in games, every fucking game is clown fiesta and the overall level (bar OG) seems incredibly lower compared to other times... Im not even really caring about this TI Wheres muh csgo when you need it  | ||
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
Im not having as much fun either, I think its because the game is so fast and every hero is so freaking buffed and is either hard counter to someone or is hard countered by someone. Then there's the comeback mechanic. For this reason wombo combo dota is no more and it was the most fun to watch imo. The only thing that worries me about the game against Liquid is that historically they have beaten NaVi all the time and that might give them a mental advantage. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 06 2016 21:44 Faruko wrote: Liquid looks pretty awful tho, and eg seems like a toss up, nb might be scary But honestly it seems like this is the most random ti ever. But if we are talking about replacing players, ditya ra might be the only one AND thats if you can get either ramzesss or resolut1on, out of the cis scenes those 2 are the only ones that could upgrade navis line up as a whole. Or go for a more "european team" In all honestly, navi has the best they can work with, the cis scene is in shambles and theres not enough talent to pick from... If Xboct, funn1k and company would be as good as they were in ti3 and beforw, they could easily be a top tier team, but they are not and you have to work with what you have. Not to mention, dota 2 is random as fuck nowadays, and im not having as much fun as i had in other times, it seems like nobody knows what to do in games, every fucking game is clown fiesta and the overall level (bar OG) seems incredibly lower compared to other teams... Im not even really caring about this TI Wheres muh csgo when you need it Agree with ramzes and resolution. Only Ditya ra could potentially be replaced. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On August 06 2016 18:59 DucK- wrote: I think ditya may leave after ti if navi finish last. Firstly playwise he underperformed in many games. Secondly from navi videos, he looks very quiet and doesn't talk much to his team. Doesn't look exactly comfortable or close to his team. Seriously, the conclusions some of you draw from lilliputian details. | ||
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pajoondies
United States316 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 06 2016 22:44 DucK- wrote: Agree with ramzes and resolution. Only Ditya ra could potentially be replaced. What about Silent? | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
Like would PA have been better? | ||
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FreakyDroid
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 07 2016 06:25 FreakyDroid wrote: Slark with basher is great a choice, Morhp cant manfight a Slark with basher. I think Ditya made a mistake by going midas-> Echo -> Blink -> Linkens. Morph didnt go the eblade build, which made Linkens useless. Linkens can be justified when playing against Batrider, but they had a Venge. BKB would have been the right choice imo, you cant rely on repel because OG arent stupid and they'll get Diffusial, which they did on Veno. He also got kited a lot by Veno and his wards , which is why his blink wasnt a good choice either. As soon as he got the basher, he got picked off 2 times in the space of 5 minutes, bought back 1 time and never finished the Abyssal because he went from 4k gold in the bank down to 2k. In that game he desperately needed BKB to deal with Veno, ES and kotl, at first it seemed ok because he got a few kills, but after that he just couldnt stay on a target. The purpose of the linken's is to block diffusal so they can't purge the repel off of you. It's what you do when you have omni, at least what I saw in pro games, get the linken's with repel to be immortal, but I feel the slark is overkill, he's already hard to kill, not enough damage fast enough I feel. | ||
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
On August 07 2016 06:38 the bear jew wrote: The purpose of the linken's is to block diffusal so they can't purge the repel off of you. It's what you do when you have omni, at least what I saw in pro games, get the linken's with repel to be immortal, but I feel the slark is overkill, he's already hard to kill, not enough damage fast enough I feel. But they'll just use 2 diffusal charges its got 2 seconds cd... He got the Linkens anticipating eblade build, but Morph never got it. | ||
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Xialos
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