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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On July 03 2015 17:35 Rix wrote: Spam the immigration authority with protest letters. Complain to our elected representatives about USA's fucked up system. the american dota community doesn't have the money or clout to do that, it really does come down to valve and also to the government deciding not to be idiots | ||
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On July 03 2015 17:44 DavoS wrote: If Sonneiko doesn't go Navi actually won't win a game Probably a 2 or 3, but not much more. Soneiko on top of being an awesome support is also a second most vocal (after Art-Style) team member, and players actually listen to his suggestions and lead. | ||
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ratedBlade
Canada33 Posts
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On July 04 2015 23:40 ratedBlade wrote: This is fucking bullshit. Both Empire and VP got their visas. The only reason US denied Akbar's visa is because they are fucking racist. Calm down. What the US sees is: a young russian without a stable job and no close ties to his home country coming to the US to play videogames. Because of this he is in the eyes of the US clearly a risk to become a illegal immigrant. Situations like this don't only happen to Russians. Calm down because this will probably get sorted out with Valves help. | ||
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ratedBlade
Canada33 Posts
On July 05 2015 00:46 TheNewEra wrote: Calm down. What the US sees is: a young russian without a stable job and no close ties to his home country coming to the US to play videogames. Because of this he is in the eyes of the US clearly a risk to become a illegal immigrant. Situations like this don't only happen to Russians. Calm down because this will probably get sorted out with Valves help. So how do you explain the fact that Empire and VP got their visas? They all got a job and are married?  | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On July 05 2015 01:29 ratedBlade wrote: So how do you explain the fact that Empire and VP got their visas? They all got a job and are married? it's easier to get a visa if you've gotten a visa in the past but yeah your name being akbar probably doesn't help | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
On July 05 2015 01:30 Elyvilon wrote: it's easier to get a visa if you've gotten a visa in the past but yeah your name being akbar probably doesn't help Yeah true, they probably think it's a trap. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
a few years ago i went to USA at the end of the "investigation" even i was wondering if i had a + Show Spoiler + bomb | ||
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sweetkay
206 Posts
On July 05 2015 03:37 Myrddraal wrote: Yeah true, they probably think it's a trap. I LOL'd | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 05 2015 22:22 Faruko wrote: My dad is from palestine, and my name and last name are from there a few years ago i went to USA at the end of the "investigation" even i was wondering if i had a + Show Spoiler + bomb Statistically, certain ethnicities are more likely to commit certain crimes, and it makes sense inspecting people who are more "at risk" than others. It's nothing to take personally, your rights aren't being abused, they are just trying to be careful. Anyway, I wish people would look at this Visa issue objectively... It is a serious risk, and it's something that countries need to keep in mind. To make it worse, the regulation related to esports isn't really there yet (maybe we could get an international governing body one day which can deal with the politics, much like the UCI has for example). What if it's a tournament that will have an expected 2000 viewers, and 200 live attendees. You can see how that would become a lucrative way to get smuggled into a country. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On July 06 2015 15:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: Statistically, certain ethnicities are more likely to commit certain crimes, and it makes sense inspecting people who are more "at risk" than others. It's nothing to take personally, your rights aren't being abused, they are just trying to be careful. Anyway, I wish people would look at this Visa issue objectively... It is a serious risk, and it's something that countries need to keep in mind. To make it worse, the regulation related to esports isn't really there yet (maybe we could get an international governing body one day which can deal with the politics, much like the UCI has for example). What if it's a tournament that will have an expected 2000 viewers, and 200 live attendees. You can see how that would become a lucrative way to get smuggled into a country. I think the correct term is culture, not ethnicity. He may have a palestine surname but that says nothing about how he was raised. People who suffer that kind of treatment usually sees it as racism or whatever -ism fits the situation. A friend of mine had the same surname as a mexican cartel guy and he got "teased" so to say. Also, I believe we all are aware that these situations have little to do with the real threats, which are usually let inside more get by themselves. This is all a charade so people feel safer and believe the lies. EDIT: Also this: Hopefully it will end well. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 06 2015 16:43 Racket wrote: I think the correct term is culture, not ethnicity. He may have a palestine surname but that says nothing about how he was raised. People who suffer that kind of treatment usually sees it as racism or whatever -ism fits the situation. A friend of mine had the same surname as a mexican cartel guy and he got "teased" so to say. Also, I believe we all are aware that these situations have little to do with the real threats, which are usually let inside more get by themselves. This is all a charade so people feel safer and believe the lies. EDIT: Also this: https://twitter.com/MooseWD/status/617363281234251776 Hopefully it will end well. Culture is the causation for it. But because someones culture is difficult to quantify, often correlations like name or race will be used. If people who are put under this, consider this racism, then they are... I dunno, easily offended. It's kind of the same thing how young men pay higher car insurance than young women, because statistically they are more likely to cause accidents. The same goes with "random/selective" airport security. Maybe some can stem from xenophobia, but most western systems are overcoming that, and it's done with more rationale than that. Anyway, enough about this convo, sorry for going a bit offtopic. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
To the post below mine - I was referring to my last sentence. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On July 06 2015 17:10 FiWiFaKi wrote: Did you not read my last post? Since it doesn't look like it. To the post below mine - I was referring to my last sentence. Statistically, certain ethnicities are more likely to commit certain crimes, and it makes sense inspecting people who are more "at risk" than others. Yep didn't read it at all. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On July 06 2015 17:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: Culture is the causation for it. But because someones culture is difficult to quantify, often correlations like name or race will be used. If people who are put under this, consider this racism, then they are... I dunno, easily offended. It's kind of the same thing how young men pay higher car insurance than young women, because statistically they are more likely to cause accidents. The same goes with "random/selective" airport security. Maybe some can stem from xenophobia, but most western systems are overcoming that, and it's done with more rationale than that. Anyway, enough about this convo, sorry for going a bit offtopic. I think it's less more likely to commit crimes and more they have nothing to stay in their country for. | ||
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ratedBlade
Canada33 Posts
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