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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
July 02 2015 18:34 GMT
#2241
Holy cow if Sonneiko doesn't go, I'm going to be so sad. Still gots time though, so hopefully it won't get denied. I wonder why visas get denied so much? I don't think I've ever gotten a visa denied, and I've had a lot of visas in my life.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
July 02 2015 18:36 GMT
#2242
It's actually fucking ridiculous. Good thing they still have a month but this is absurd.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
July 02 2015 19:05 GMT
#2243
Is there a precedent for a stand-in at TI5 due to visa issues? I didn't think Valve allowed that, seeing as their invitations go to five specific players instead of a brand/team. What would Navi do if Sonneiko didn't make it?
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
July 02 2015 19:10 GMT
#2244
Mhmm Sonneiko will probably still go. Isn't there a situation like this every year be4 Ti? If Valve gets involved it should work
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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
July 02 2015 19:13 GMT
#2245
On July 03 2015 03:34 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow if Sonneiko doesn't go, I'm going to be so sad. Still gots time though, so hopefully it won't get denied. I wonder why visas get denied so much? I don't think I've ever gotten a visa denied, and I've had a lot of visas in my life.

Yea but what kind of visa have you applied for? Do they come with a 6-million dollar stake? (not sure how much this year's champion will get)

LoL is officially recognized as a sport in the US since 2 years ago, why haven't dota join the ranks? C'mon Valve. Work your magic already.
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
July 02 2015 21:23 GMT
#2246
On July 03 2015 04:05 Beirut wrote:
Is there a precedent for a stand-in at TI5 due to visa issues? I didn't think Valve allowed that, seeing as their invitations go to five specific players instead of a brand/team. What would Navi do if Sonneiko didn't make it?

There is. At TI2 KuroKy played as a stand-in for Mousesports because ComeWithMe couldn't get his visa. See note at the bottom of this page:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2012/Rosters
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 02 2015 21:37 GMT
#2247
On July 03 2015 04:05 Beirut wrote:
Is there a precedent for a stand-in at TI5 due to visa issues? I didn't think Valve allowed that, seeing as their invitations go to five specific players instead of a brand/team. What would Navi do if Sonneiko didn't make it?

Probably bring Vanskor, i'm pretty sure they'll sort it out though.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 03 2015 02:05 GMT
#2248
Hopefully valve can call the State Department and do something. Vouch for him or some shit. Come on USA Government, I'll vouch for the guy.
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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
July 03 2015 05:12 GMT
#2249
On July 03 2015 03:34 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow if Sonneiko doesn't go, I'm going to be so sad. Still gots time though, so hopefully it won't get denied. I wonder why visas get denied so much? I don't think I've ever gotten a visa denied, and I've had a lot of visas in my life.


Well, his name is Akbar. Never know if TI5 is just a coverup to bomb Seattle!
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
July 03 2015 05:48 GMT
#2250
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.
Everything is a remix.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 03 2015 06:25 GMT
#2251
On July 03 2015 14:48 elagrion wrote:
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.

what do you recommend? I don't think there's really much we can do.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
July 03 2015 06:27 GMT
#2252
On July 03 2015 14:12 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 03:34 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Holy cow if Sonneiko doesn't go, I'm going to be so sad. Still gots time though, so hopefully it won't get denied. I wonder why visas get denied so much? I don't think I've ever gotten a visa denied, and I've had a lot of visas in my life.


Well, his name is Akbar. Never know if TI5 is just a coverup to bomb Seattle!

Also he is the only one from NaVi that is from Russia! And the USA "love" Russia...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Rix
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore39 Posts
July 03 2015 08:35 GMT
#2253
On July 03 2015 15:25 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 14:48 elagrion wrote:
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.

what do you recommend? I don't think there's really much we can do.


Spam the immigration authority with protest letters. Complain to our elected representatives about USA's fucked up system.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 03 2015 08:44 GMT
#2254
If Sonneiko doesn't go Navi actually won't win a game
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Angeloidus
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation251 Posts
July 03 2015 10:15 GMT
#2255
I hope Na'Vi forfeit and just join the casters/analyst team if Sonneiko can't get his visa in time. Playing TI with a stand-in will be a humiliating experience (much more so than MarsTV).
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
July 03 2015 10:39 GMT
#2256
On July 03 2015 17:35 Rix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 15:25 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 03 2015 14:48 elagrion wrote:
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.

what do you recommend? I don't think there's really much we can do.


Spam the immigration authority with protest letters. Complain to our elected representatives about USA's fucked up system.


The root of the problem is that Dota is not officially recognised as a sport or even a real job, and the players are not recognised as athletes.

To the visa officials Sonneiko's tourist application is that of a young man who has just graduated, has no job, no wife, no kids, no previous travel history, i.e. absolutely nothing that could indicate that he has reasons to go back to Russia. Their internal regulations state that they should deny the visa in this case. That's not specific to the U.S., any country with immigration issues acts exactly the same.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 03 2015 10:40 GMT
#2257
On July 03 2015 17:35 Rix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 15:25 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 03 2015 14:48 elagrion wrote:
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.

what do you recommend? I don't think there's really much we can do.


Spam the immigration authority with protest letters. Complain to our elected representatives about USA's fucked up system.


Lol dude the system made me leave after 9 years for Canada. Alot more powerful and smarter people are trying to fix it and failing sooo..
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
July 03 2015 11:32 GMT
#2258
On July 03 2015 17:35 Rix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 15:25 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 03 2015 14:48 elagrion wrote:
Great. Visas issues are killing e-sports. It is time we as a community do something.

what do you recommend? I don't think there's really much we can do.


Spam the immigration authority with protest letters. Complain to our elected representatives about USA's fucked up system.

Well, they have worse problems in the health sector and nothing gets better so I don't see anything good coming given the "threat" of terrorism.

Back to the team, I really hope Sonneiko gets the visa. It will be such a waste, if a young and promising player like him misses such experience.

Maybe next time Valve will hold TI somewhere else, at least until Dota becomes a sport.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2843 Posts
July 03 2015 11:39 GMT
#2259
Pretty sure Gaben has at least one senator on a leash so this should sort itself out.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 03 2015 11:46 GMT
#2260
On July 03 2015 20:39 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Pretty sure Gaben has at least one senator on a leash so this should sort itself out.


Yeah a letter from someone in congress is pretty much easy street. A friend of mine got it done to get his parents in for graduation after they kept rejecting 1 or the other over the years when they wanted to visit, to make sure they could never come together.
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