EPTOn March 06 2015 02:23 lolnoty wrote:
prayers answered
prayers answered
I'm absolutely elated right now. Faith and Chuan back together, maybe they were fantastic in the old days, but can they hang now? I'm pretty excited either way.
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deadmau
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I'm absolutely elated right now. Faith and Chuan back together, maybe they were fantastic in the old days, but can they hang now? I'm pretty excited either way. | ||
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Howie_Dewitt
United States1416 Posts
Yes My all time fave team since they were created Is finally back to being not shitty Yes | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On March 06 2015 02:29 lolnoty wrote: A lot of old vets were captains in dota 1 and early dota 2, but quickly realized that you can't just stomp teams based on player skill anymore and strategy was way more pronounced leading up to and including TI3. Burning is a "captain" but he is not a Captain. It's the same as Fear in my eyes. Great player, makes good calls, gives good input, and I'm sure he makes calls in game after a certain point. That said, both he and burning aren't the ones that are in charge of drafting, strategy, and general game direction. Most of the drafts were Mushi/lanm with I'm sure some iceiceice flare going on too. That's what I mean when I say burning isn't a Captain, he's just a "captain". Also why they are smartly bringing Faith back because they need someone who doesn't tilt at the drop of a hat (chuan) to be in the drivers seat for a majority of the game. Burning drafted far more for DK than Mushi ever did. Judging by the sort of lineups Lanm drafted, I'd also guess that Burning had more influence on his drafts than Mushi. In fact, the Mushi influence seemed to get smaller and smaller the longer DK were together. That said I don't really disagree though. Burning's a decent drafter, but definitely not a great one. It's not really possible for us to tell how good of an in-game leader he is, but in DK there was a noticeable drop in his performance whenever he was required to draft and presumably lead. | ||
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
On March 06 2015 09:39 Orome wrote: Burning drafted far more for DK than Mushi ever did. Judging by the sort of lineups Lanm drafted, I'd also guess that Burning had more influence on his drafts than Mushi. In fact, the Mushi influence seemed to get smaller and smaller the longer DK were together. That said I don't really disagree though. Burning's a decent drafter, but definitely not a great one. It's not really possible for us to tell how good of an in-game leader he is, but in DK there was a noticeable drop in his performance whenever he was required to draft and presumably lead. Anyways we have a good carry, good mid, and good supports, hopefully they'll perform :D | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On March 06 2015 09:39 Orome wrote: Burning drafted far more for DK than Mushi ever did. Judging by the sort of lineups Lanm drafted, I'd also guess that Burning had more influence on his drafts than Mushi. In fact, the Mushi influence seemed to get smaller and smaller the longer DK were together. That said I don't really disagree though. Burning's a decent drafter, but definitely not a great one. It's not really possible for us to tell how good of an in-game leader he is, but in DK there was a noticeable drop in his performance whenever he was required to draft and presumably lead. Burning's drafting period was also one of their weakest for the team. Mushi drafted for about 4 months from their forming to early Jan, then burning for a couple, then lanm up to and inc. Ti4. They switched who was primarily contributing with strats throughout TI4, but it was still Lanm carrying with calls, strats, and being a boss. Still we both agree you can be a great player but also not the best "director" for a team, and the same goes for the other way around. I was not a fan of 2013 DK when burning played a bigger role - China's entire idea of the game leading to 2013 was pretty dusty. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Mushi drafted during their honeymoon phase (their undefeated streak through WPC group stages). They switched to Burning a week or two after 6.79 hit and he drafted for them until after MLG when they switched back to Mushi for I believe WPC and G-League where they randomly switched to Lanm for the finals and wrecked iG 3-0. After that, Burning and Lanm took turns drafting. It was Burning for the smaller Chinese tournaments before SL9, Lanm for SL9 and the Summit, a mix for WPC, Burning in the online tournaments preceding TI4, then Burning in the first 2 days of TI4 and Lanm after. Overall it wasn't Mushi for a few months, then Burning, then Lanm (and anyway, the months you're claiming Burning drafted were arguably their strongest, with a lot of Chinese tournament wins and SL9 domination during 6.80). It was Mushi until he/the team lost confidence in his drafts and then Burning/Lanm taking turns. To me it always felt like they let Lanm draft whenever he/the team was confident and Burning when they weren't as comfortable and just wanted something solid.) OK I'm actually not sure why I wrote that. Goddamn I wish that team still existed. | ||
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Caladbolg
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DucK-
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tehplank
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goody153
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Esports Magazine: You have been with IG since 2011. You are one of the original members of IG. You have experienced many ups and downs. According to you, how does this team compare to the IG of TI2? Which team is stronger? ChuaN: Time is changing, DOTA is also changing. The current players and teams are certainly stronger than old players and teams. I really don't think you can compare the two. Esports Magazine: What is the greatest strength of IG and the biggest weakness of IG? ChuaN: BurNIng and 430 are amongst the best carry and mid players in the world. They are our strength. Our weakness... maybe is our support play. Our support play are not as good as the other top supports. interesting interview by chuan http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/30245-chuan-our-support-play-is-our-biggest-weakness lastly Esports Magazine: While the Chinese teams are going through a transfer period, the Western teams are also making changes to their lined up. What is your view of the Eastern team V.S. the Western team debate? ChuaN: The competition between the East and West has always been China is stronger one year and the West is stronger the next year. Last year China won TI, one can only hope they can defend their titles. Even chuan knows the TI iteration lol | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
does any iG fan want to take over the thread OP btw, and keep it updated? emu seems to be awol for this thread ~ haha | ||
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
On March 15 2015 14:50 opterown wrote: iG double header today with SL, can't wait to get my chinese dota fix again does any iG fan want to take over the thread OP btw, and keep it updated? emu seems to be awol for this thread ~ haha I'd like to, but I'm not too confident I'll do a great job... Off topic: iG first days, pretty good :D | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On March 15 2015 23:56 Checkm8 wrote: I'd like to, but I'm not too confident I'll do a great job... Off topic: iG first days, pretty good :D There's not a huge amount that needs to be done, just put in any notable achievements and roster changes when they happen. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
On March 16 2015 03:11 Thetwinmasters wrote: Damn i just watched the vods and damn they look good They certainly do and gratz with 430 posts  | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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Caladbolg
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On March 16 2015 21:36 Caladbolg wrote: Luo is actually really good as an offlaner. If you watch his stream, Luo is actually a very good player on all positions, maybe except hard carry. After watching the games in SL, I was surprised by how burning change the mentality of the team, especially Ferrari. Previously, IG pushed themselves too hard in mid game, with the mind set of 'If we don't win it now, we will be fucked in the late game, because Luo is nothing comparing other T1 carries'. And now, it is like, 'Just stay chilled, B-god will handle the late game for us.' So, they become more patient. Also, credit to Faith to bring back the old iG style aggressive warding. I just love the way how he ward the enemy jungle even before T1 is down. Chisbug surely doesn't have a clue how this can be done, and the previous LGD didn't know how to capitalize it. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
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Uranium
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