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Liebig
France738 Posts
On August 07 2015 22:28 goody153 wrote: Yeah well we are theoretically just discussing obviously ATM there's no spot for him. So he's stuck with secret or some EU team or some NA team or some old team reformed post-TI5 or he retires and he becomes doctor babaev in a few years | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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goody153
44238 Posts
On August 07 2015 23:11 Liebig wrote: or he retires and he becomes doctor babaev in a few years that's an option i know that he does wanna proceed to college after he's done with this pro-scene thing and prepare becoming DR. Babaev | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Stephano 2.0 | ||
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goody153
44238 Posts
On August 07 2015 23:15 Faruko wrote: So... he got into dota 2 to win money and pay his studies and become a doctor ? Stephano 2.0 Canadian Version | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
I'd certainly like to see Arteezy back on C9 along with PLD, but I don't know if it's likely to happen. In terms of results of future squads, I'm not sure any of the players on the current roster will ever be the right sort of players for consistent tournament wins. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
More likeable | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
by far. stephano was awful | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On August 08 2015 00:36 FuzzyJAM wrote: Envy didn't like that the team revolved around Sing and it doesn't matter where you lane him, the game is going to revolve around Arteezy. Though maybe Envy would be OK with that because he'd trust Arteezy more. I'd certainly like to see Arteezy back on C9 along with PLD, but I don't know if it's likely to happen. In terms of results of future squads, I'm not sure any of the players on the current roster will ever be the right sort of players for consistent tournament wins. I've warmed up to Misery. I think he can be an absolute beast under the right leadership. He very rarely has off games, and always delivers under pressure (unlike the rest of the team). As for the other players - EE has also been improving his consistency, and although he has the occasional feeding via over extension, he finds farm and has impact even in adverse situations and poor starts vs aggro tri/dual lanes. He's definitely championship capable under the right situations. Fata- is a beast on the right heroes, but unfortunately the current meta has not been too kind on his hero pool. He is very average on Storm, Lina, Lesh, Nevermore etc. He will always find farm on most heroes, but his impact is not on the same level as other top tier mids like Maybe, CTY, Suma1l etc. N0tail and Bone7 have been the weakest links this TI. This may have been a result of Bone7 drafting, but he often drafts himself into the safelane, leaving Envy against a trilane in most cases, but he still hasnt had a positive impact in games even though he gets off to easier starts. I am hard pressed to think of a game in the last 3-4 months where Bone7 has massively impacted a game by himself. N0tail hasn't been given his signature earthshaker Elder Titan etc, and been forced to repeatedly play wisp over and over again. | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
During our conversation we couldn't help but overhear EE and Notail having a pretty intense discussion about fault and team morale/level of effort, etc. Definitely don't anticipate them spending time together on a team next year. FATA was also like off in a corner talking to Kuro in German and it I don't speak a lot of German but I know flame when I hear it rofl. I'm not a betting man but my money is on a pretty thorough retooling of the C9 squad. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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pat777
United States356 Posts
On August 08 2015 02:22 Piledriver wrote: EE has also been improving his consistency, and although he has the occasional feeding via over extension, he finds farm and has impact even in adverse situations and poor starts vs aggro tri/dual lanes. He's definitely championship capable under the right situations.. I think he's championship capable under a champion caliber captain. He's just not a top tier captain (at least not yet) nor does he have one. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On August 09 2015 17:27 Beirut wrote: Hey just wanted to contribute a personal anecdote from my time at TI5. My cousin and I were walking in downtown Seattle the night after C9 was eliminated and we walked by the Westin, which I guess is where the players were staying. Tons of them were outside smoking (EE, Notail, Fata, F7ckingmad, Kuro, FATA, March, etc) and we stopped to talk to March briefly because we're pretty big fans of the Korean squad. During our conversation we couldn't help but overhear EE and Notail having a pretty intense discussion about fault and team morale/level of effort, etc. Definitely don't anticipate them spending time together on a team next year. FATA was also like off in a corner talking to Kuro in German and it I don't speak a lot of German but I know flame when I hear it rofl. I'm not a betting man but my money is on a pretty thorough retooling of the C9 squad. It's good that they're being constructive and not giving up on Dota. Must have been cool to meet up with March Surprised though that they'd talk now. FIgur ethey'd be burned out. | ||
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Stalemilk
204 Posts
On August 09 2015 17:27 Beirut wrote: Hey just wanted to contribute a personal anecdote from my time at TI5. My cousin and I were walking in downtown Seattle the night after C9 was eliminated and we walked by the Westin, which I guess is where the players were staying. Tons of them were outside smoking (EE, Notail, Fata, F7ckingmad, Kuro, FATA, March, etc) and we stopped to talk to March briefly because we're pretty big fans of the Korean squad. During our conversation we couldn't help but overhear EE and Notail having a pretty intense discussion about fault and team morale/level of effort, etc. Definitely don't anticipate them spending time together on a team next year. FATA was also like off in a corner talking to Kuro in German and it I don't speak a lot of German but I know flame when I hear it rofl. I'm not a betting man but my money is on a pretty thorough retooling of the C9 squad. I didn't realize so many people smoked? Were all the people you mentioned smoking? | ||
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Liebig
France738 Posts
On August 09 2015 19:37 Stalemilk wrote: I didn't realize so many people smoked? Were all the people you mentioned smoking? kuro and notail are smokers for sure, kuro gave smokes to a chinese coach on the stream of one of the summit, notail smokes those e-cig stuff on his stream | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
On August 09 2015 19:37 Stalemilk wrote: I didn't realize so many people smoked? Were all the people you mentioned smoking? Nah not all of them. We were smoking with March to be social but I don't recall EE actually smoking he was just hanging out. | ||
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
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Robo-boogey
Australia110 Posts
On January 04 2015 21:25 Robo-boogey wrote: The predicted change is Misery and Notail in, with Aui and Pie out. I think this would make them stronger. I think that what the team has been lacking recently is skill of execution at the support positions. I don't mean that Aui and Pie are bad, clearly they are good solid players who fit in with the team. But they are rarely match-winningly good either. Other than Aui's visage they are rarely ban targets. They are reliable at stacking the jungle, and keeping good positioning in teamfights. But both Notail and Misery can pull off some seriously good plays. The risk is that losing established cogs destabilises the team. Aui especially seems like a model teammate. Sometimes the "teammanship" skill is underrated in a workplace, it really makes a difference to getting a team working smoothly. I find it hard to believe Aui was kicked, and the fact he has found his way to EG suggests he made his own choice. But based on the net result of the rotations, I still think this is a net positive for C9 as long as they can work as a team with the new support duo. I was wrong but I was also right... Interesting that when Aui moved from C9 to EG, C9 fell apart while EG pulled together. Aui is a solid player for sure, especially on a hero with minions. But on top of that, it seems this TI really showed that the 'glue guy' can make a big difference to the overall performance of a team well beyond just their individual skill. | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
Let's be naive here and hope that envy's stock hasn't dropped during this TI too much. Misery miraculously decides to stay. The team gets one or several people from a secret reshuffle. Great players are nice, but good leadership would be even more valuable. That's what c9 has been lacking. One clear voice, no more people chipping in into not listening to one another. I'd rather see puppey+kuro get envy into their new team or s4 be in a new c9 and the rest be pubstars, than have a star lineup with rtz, zai and other stars with no real leader. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
They had a bad event, no question, but I don't think it's necessarily as bad as initially thought. | ||
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