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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 02 2018 09:45 GMT
#41
On March 02 2018 17:43 Frogstomp wrote:
but at the cost of 8% extra dispersion, which is damage and tank? for 40% extra illu damage on your illusions that last 7 seconds every two minutes???

But you won't always have a use for that talent. If you are playing against Viper, Doom with Aghs, or multiple Silver Edge heroes they will break your dispersion in the fight and just kill you, at that point your level 25 talent is just useless. And you will probably be 5 or 6 slotted the time you reach level 25 as Spec.

You are going to stack agi anyway later in the game, having Treads, Radiance, Skadi, Butterfly, Manta, Diffusal/Eblade have your illusions deal ridiculous amounts of damage even without that talent, with that talent I think that only tanks can stay alive. Include Refresher in the backpack, and with 2 ulties that deal 80% of your damage, you can literally wipe whole team.

Dispersion will still be better talent because of the nature of the Spectre, with other build that you will probably go with Heart, Blade Mail if needed, Nullifier(she is probably one of the best Nullifier carries in the game), but this illusion damage talent is very far from bad, it is actually amazing in right circumstances.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9578 Posts
March 02 2018 10:18 GMT
#42
Mmm I dunno about these changes personally, but I think these 2-week patches are pushing the envelope a bit too far. Like someone before me said, the meta hasn't fully developed from the past changes and we are already seeing new ones, drastic or otherwise. I do not think this is healthy for this game.
Sure, do mini-patches with quick bugfixes and necessary quick hero nerfs but let the players figure out something before you decide to flip it on its head.
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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 11:04:21
March 02 2018 11:03 GMT
#43
On March 02 2018 15:20 babysimba wrote:

Icefrog is trying hard to kill roaming and buff static laning.



I love meta control, doesn't remind me of any other game of any sort that does this type of thing =x

Really nothing terrible out of this patch, still trending poorly overall.
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 16:00:21
March 02 2018 13:41 GMT
#44
TB and Razor slight nerfs only.
Tinker slight nerfs, lvl 20 talent change is arguably a buff.

Why Necro nerfed?

edit: Isn't the roaming nerf kind of an indirect buff to TB as well?
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 02 2018 16:15 GMT
#45
500 gold boots

bounty rune no exp

g g roaming supports

Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
March 02 2018 21:19 GMT
#46
Bounty runes were the only reason I stayed relevant as pos 5 in pubs. I cant farm when the other 4 heroes on my team are all carries icefrog, I needed that xp!
And these Jakiro changes are stupid that hero does not need any buffs rn
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 02 2018 22:00 GMT
#47
So one thing that wasn't touched on is Ember Spirit's Sleight of Fist being buffed two patches in a row. Can we finally see a proper comeback of Battlefury Spirit?
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 22:16:09
March 02 2018 22:15 GMT
#48
On March 03 2018 07:00 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
So one thing that wasn't touched on is Ember Spirit's Sleight of Fist being buffed two patches in a row. Can we finally see a proper comeback of Battlefury Spirit?

Unlikely, they massively nerfed bf sof a while back when they changed the direction of the hits.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 03 2018 02:35 GMT
#49
On March 02 2018 07:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 07:07 Zea! wrote:
Don't like at all no XP runes as a support thug life

Yeah I don't like that change either, maybe lower the exp more, completely removing it kills the game for roamers.

Not sure if I agree. Seems like it has become way too easy for position 4/5s to get exp and gold. I kind of liked the older days where 2-3 "good" items weren't all but guaranteed for a support. Feels more rewarding making big plays with minimal items.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
March 03 2018 14:10 GMT
#50
On March 02 2018 09:29 bigbadchen wrote:
I can see tomes are reserved to level hungry heroes like omniknight. 700 xp is no joke. This buff can be abused for heores that rely on nukes.


No dude, you save the tome for your +60% xp warlock to get him to 25 instantly !
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
March 03 2018 20:24 GMT
#51
im not really fond on how they're killing off the roaming support role with the bounty rune change. though some people might disagree with me on this though.
Keep moving forward
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 03 2018 21:42 GMT
#52
Personally, the boots change is a lot bigger than the xp nerf to bounty.
villainzilla
Profile Joined July 2014
Philippines192 Posts
March 04 2018 01:50 GMT
#53
On March 03 2018 07:00 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
So one thing that wasn't touched on is Ember Spirit's Sleight of Fist being buffed two patches in a row. Can we finally see a proper comeback of Battlefury Spirit?

it's back to the same damage ember had on release, it's interesting
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 04 2018 20:22 GMT
#54
anyone notice obscenely long que times this patch? like there is 450k players on right now and its taking 10-15 min ques at 4k
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
March 04 2018 21:26 GMT
#55
On March 05 2018 05:22 Darpa wrote:
anyone notice obscenely long que times this patch? like there is 450k players on right now and its taking 10-15 min ques at 4k


I noticed a terrible quality of games, 10 straight stomps win into 10 straight stomp losses.....
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