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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2014 15:31 GMT
#1241
On December 13 2014 00:29 SKC wrote:
Plus you need to be protected against random shit in space anyway if you are travelling at near lightspeed velocity. Its not like space is completelly empty, if accidently running into a miniscule meteorite fucks you up because of how fast you are going, you arent really in a very safe ship.

Yeah, there's a reason FTL travel in Dune literally is only possible using precognition.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 12 2014 15:33 GMT
#1242
On December 13 2014 00:27 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:23 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2014 00:14 Qbek wrote:
I could go on and on about stuff like this but I've got better things to do, like laying in bed listening to music.

Why the fuck are the sensors exposed during combat thou? It's not like the amount of radiation and what not a ship would leave in vacuum can't be detected through some armor.

Its space, there is a lot of nothing out there. You need sensors to see and target. Plus both sides are throwing up shit to get fuck with the other sides ability to see them.

If your senors are perfectly protected, your blind.

You use sensors to detect when the danger is close and hide them reactively. Not like a ship in space can do a u-turn, you don't need to see them 24/7

Well the ships are more like subs in space, they can't see each other and they are really far apart. The combat took place over hundreds of miles. There is nothing in space, so they could shoot really far.

Its not Star trek combat. At one point in the book they are using water change course so the enemy ship can detect their heat signature. Its a lot more "hard science" in tone, so the sensors are 100% necessary and you can't pull them all in.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 15:40:02
December 12 2014 15:39 GMT
#1243
Well, you are still able to drop a ton of sand from really, really, far away and make sure it arrives at the exact position the other guy is traveling to, at very high speeds. You kinda need very good data about his trajectory and velocity to do that reliably.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
December 12 2014 15:42 GMT
#1244
So on an unrelated note, what kind of ice cream does LDOOTGD prefer? I have a craving for it right now, but can't decide what kind I want. n_n
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 12 2014 15:44 GMT
#1245
On December 13 2014 00:39 SKC wrote:
Well, you are still able to drop a ton of sand from really, really, far away and make sure it arrives at the exact position the other guy is traveling to, at very high speeds. You kinda need very good data about his trajectory and velocity to do that reliably.

They were able to predict it due to the speeds they were traveling and knowing where the ship would end up. Both ships were working to engage the other. The sand was deployed by drones right before the battle.

I haven't read it in years, but all both ships were attempting to engage each other and it took them several days to get into firing range. They had a lot of time to plan, which seemed to be standard when ships decided to fight each other.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2014 15:44 GMT
#1246
On December 13 2014 00:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:27 Qbek wrote:
On December 13 2014 00:23 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2014 00:14 Qbek wrote:
I could go on and on about stuff like this but I've got better things to do, like laying in bed listening to music.

Why the fuck are the sensors exposed during combat thou? It's not like the amount of radiation and what not a ship would leave in vacuum can't be detected through some armor.

Its space, there is a lot of nothing out there. You need sensors to see and target. Plus both sides are throwing up shit to get fuck with the other sides ability to see them.

If your senors are perfectly protected, your blind.

You use sensors to detect when the danger is close and hide them reactively. Not like a ship in space can do a u-turn, you don't need to see them 24/7

Well the ships are more like subs in space, they can't see each other and they are really far apart. The combat took place over hundreds of miles. There is nothing in space, so they could shoot really far.

Its not Star trek combat. At one point in the book they are using water change course so the enemy ship can detect their heat signature. Its a lot more "hard science" in tone, so the sensors are 100% necessary and you can't pull them all in.

How is it hard science when it's referencing 1940s tech? The arms race in far future would have taken the ships so far that even thinking about fighting is suicide. I personally greatly dislike the very idea of combat in space, like how would you even meet someone? Any encounters would need to happen in the gravity well of a star to even make the encounter last any time, since at any point one of the sides can fuck off in a random direction without that, and in space magnitudes 3 seconds of headway let's you shake any tail.

And then there's nukes.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 12 2014 15:56 GMT
#1247
On December 13 2014 00:42 dismiss wrote:
So on an unrelated note, what kind of ice cream does LDOOTGD prefer? I have a craving for it right now, but can't decide what kind I want. n_n


mint chocolate chip or chocolate chip cookie dough.

if its soft serve, pistachio or plain vanilla with rainbow sprinkles. fuck yea
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 15:58:54
December 12 2014 15:57 GMT
#1248
Well this is a crazy future where everyone is immortal and they are fighting a race of collective AI's and the cyborg people that live as part of the collective. Its crazy future tech. One is trying to destroy an fledging AI on a planet and the AI ship is trying to protect it. So its near a star.

And I don't think nukes would be that effective. Those ships were really far apart and you would need to get them to the enemy ship without them being shot down. It was all about lasers and amazing amount of mass. As nano bots, so many nano bots.

Its a good read, people should check it out rather than listening to me. Its pretty quick and action packed.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 12 2014 16:04 GMT
#1249
On December 13 2014 00:56 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:42 dismiss wrote:
So on an unrelated note, what kind of ice cream does LDOOTGD prefer? I have a craving for it right now, but can't decide what kind I want. n_n


mint chocolate chip or chocolate chip cookie dough.

if its soft serve, pistachio or plain vanilla with rainbow sprinkles. fuck yea

if its gonna be on a cone, i always ask for one scoop of strawberry and one scoop of chocolate chip
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 12 2014 16:05 GMT
#1250
cheesecake
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
December 12 2014 16:05 GMT
#1251
strawberry
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 12 2014 16:05 GMT
#1252
my eyes burn with the fury of satan im so tired god damn it
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
December 12 2014 16:06 GMT
#1253
On December 13 2014 01:05 Targe wrote:
my eyes burn with the fury of satan im so tired god damn it

Finals as well?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2014 16:08 GMT
#1254
funny americans have finals in mid semester
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
December 12 2014 16:12 GMT
#1255
On December 13 2014 01:04 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:56 BluemoonSC wrote:
On December 13 2014 00:42 dismiss wrote:
So on an unrelated note, what kind of ice cream does LDOOTGD prefer? I have a craving for it right now, but can't decide what kind I want. n_n


mint chocolate chip or chocolate chip cookie dough.

if its soft serve, pistachio or plain vanilla with rainbow sprinkles. fuck yea

if its gonna be on a cone, i always ask for one scoop of strawberry and one scoop of chocolate chip

After eight is so good, but I'm not sure if they have it at the closest supermarket. sad life.
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totalpigeon
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
December 12 2014 16:21 GMT
#1256
Raspberry ripple. Can't beat it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 12 2014 16:23 GMT
#1257
French vanilla with hot fudge, because classics are hard to beat.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 12 2014 16:24 GMT
#1258
On December 13 2014 01:06 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 01:05 Targe wrote:
my eyes burn with the fury of satan im so tired god damn it

Finals as well?

ye courseowkr deadlines -_-
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 12 2014 16:27 GMT
#1259
On December 13 2014 00:31 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:29 SKC wrote:
Plus you need to be protected against random shit in space anyway if you are travelling at near lightspeed velocity. Its not like space is completelly empty, if accidently running into a miniscule meteorite fucks you up because of how fast you are going, you arent really in a very safe ship.

Yeah, there's a reason FTL travel in Dune literally is only possible using precognition.

Yes and no
they use mainly those juiced up things to calculate the speed/angle
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
December 12 2014 16:28 GMT
#1260
On December 13 2014 01:27 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 00:31 Qbek wrote:
On December 13 2014 00:29 SKC wrote:
Plus you need to be protected against random shit in space anyway if you are travelling at near lightspeed velocity. Its not like space is completelly empty, if accidently running into a miniscule meteorite fucks you up because of how fast you are going, you arent really in a very safe ship.

Yeah, there's a reason FTL travel in Dune literally is only possible using precognition.

Yes and no
they use mainly those juiced up things to calculate the speed/angle

Rofl that's true too, they don't even have any computers in Dune. Just EVIL JEWS FROM OUTER SPACE!
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