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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On September 26 2014 05:57 Daralii wrote: The massive nerf to tower gold is an indirect nerf to her. She depends on snowballing on towers more than any other hero in the game. If she's behind, she's useless. So this patch kind of destroys her, tbh. Can't say I'm too upset. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Urn still shouldn't stop salves afaik since the ticks are too small (i could be wrong). Just like u can salve thru jugg spin level 1 unless he auto's u in it (even tho the auto does no dmg it cancels ur salve LOL) On September 26 2014 06:06 Daralii wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if Wave and urn are changed to negative regen, like Heartstopper. Urn MAYBE but i'd be shocked, i think it's an intentional blink disable change. Wave no way, its a single instance of dmg u can't just nerf it to be over time thats awful. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Poison sting does small enough ticks to not disable salves even though it doesn't disable blinks. Urn still shouldn't stop salves afaik since the ticks are too small (i could be wrong). Just like u can salve thru jugg spin level 1 unless he auto's u in it (even tho the auto does no dmg it cancels ur salve LOL) Someone tested it yesterday in IRC(I forget who) and said it didn't cancel it. It needs to do 20 damage and it only did 18. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:12 Shaella wrote: in my opinion new PL may have the potential to be one of the most oppressive mid game carries ever He isn't countered by true sight anymore, and since one of the illusions takes normal damage, even an aoe nuke won't help much, plus doesn't doppelganger only cost 50 mana? | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:10 Sn0_Man wrote: w0w u simplified damage types and made them so much more intuitive by taking out HP removal and replacing it with negative regen over 0.0000001 seconds lol game literally saved 100% best change NA | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:13 Acritter wrote: game literally saved 100% best change NA R U Icefrog? | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:06 Sn0_Man wrote: Poison sting does small enough ticks to not disable salves even though it disables blinks. Just like orb of venom. Much like refraction interactions. Although its kinda silly cuz Ion Shell wrecks refraction but U can salve thru levels 1 and 2 I think. Urn still shouldn't stop salves afaik since the ticks are too small (i could be wrong). Just like u can salve thru jugg spin level 1 unless he auto's u in it (even tho the auto does no dmg it cancels ur salve LOL) Urn MAYBE but i'd be shocked, i think it's an intentional blink disable change. Wave no way, its a single instance of dmg u can't just nerf it to be over time thats awful. The problem with urn is that it hard counters TA(eats refraction charges) and can proc cold snap. It's completely fucking broken for its cost. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:13 SoylentGamer wrote: He isn't countered by true sight anymore, and since one of the illusions takes normal damage, even an aoe nuke won't help much, plus doesn't doppelganger only cost 50 mana? yeah 50 mana but doppelganger is a weird ability. The most oppressive thing is actually maxed phantom rush, heros like Sniper and drow simply cannot get away from PL, and once he has a diffu his damage spike is crazy | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:16 Daralii wrote: The problem with urn is that it hard counters TA(eats refraction charges) and can proc cold snap. It's completely fucking broken for its cost. urn on invoker... this... is... crazy... | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Why do you think everybody is complaining that they are turning this game into LoL? Because they are lazy and can't come up with anything better than a reductive, shitty argument? | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:17 Shaella wrote: yeah 50 mana but doppelganger is a weird ability. The most oppressive thing is actually maxed phantom rush, heros like Sniper and drow simply cannot get away from PL, and once he has a diffu his damage spike is crazy I messed around in the test client, it disrupts him for a few seconds too, so it can be used to dodge spells, I think it's his strongest ability now :o | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:17 Shaella wrote: yeah 50 mana but doppelganger is a weird ability. The most oppressive thing is actually maxed phantom rush, heros like Sniper and drow simply cannot get away from PL, and once he has a diffu his damage spike is crazy It's a 0 cast point phase shift/blink that purges debuffs. For 50 mana on a 10 second cooldown. It's AMAZING. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:12 Shaella wrote: in my opinion new PL may have the potential to be one of the most oppressive mid game carries ever He's taken some really tough nerfs too, though. The Agi gain nerf hits really hard, and his illusions last only 8 seconds. Secondary illusions barely even exist. 4 second duration and only 8% chance. The dodge is good, but he's still just not going to be generating enough illusions to have noticeable damage. I really think we're not going to be seeing much of him. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:19 Acritter wrote: He's taken some really tough nerfs too, though. The Agi gain nerf hits really hard, and his illusions last only 8 seconds. Secondary illusions barely even exist. 4 second duration and only 8% chance. The dodge is good, but he's still just not going to be generating enough illusions to have noticeable damage. I really think we're not going to be seeing much of him. have you played him? He gens illusions rapidly, and PHANTOM RUSH. Hero is good | ||
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