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On September 24 2014 23:20 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 23:18 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On September 24 2014 23:15 Plansix wrote:On September 24 2014 23:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On September 24 2014 23:09 -Celestial- wrote:On September 24 2014 22:11 Narw wrote:
Go away with that gold change, i want to play Dota 2 instead of "oh shit i better not do anything risky now" couse that brown boots Distruptor gets Aghanim. Going to be interesting watching a team really far behind hitting something like RP/Black Hole/Epicentre and then getting like a billion gold from a teamwipe of the opposition. or teams will be too scared to fight since they might throw and wait 20 extra minutes to get the perfect engage. But the other team will want to fight if they are that far behind because its all wins for them. Or get a smoke pick off on a core. There is as much reward for the other side as there is risk. Wanting to engage and being able to win that engagement are very different things. No shit, really? The point is that while one side might be playing safe because they are ahead, there is a big reward for the other side to try to make something happen. Both sides are not rewarded for being passive.
That side still has to find a fight they can actually win though which means there isn't going to be an engagement is my point. If the pickoffs are so detrimental that you lose the game when your hyper carry dies then you're never going to stop protecting said carry and the comeback team is never going to be able to engage a fight.
Now this could cause the comeback team to farm back into the game, but that isn't the interesting kills we are hoping for. The behind team suiciding into the winning team over and over again because they might get a pickoff and comeback is stupid.
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On September 24 2014 23:25 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 20:46 Manit0u wrote:On September 24 2014 19:57 Vansetsu wrote:
Dota Treant with aghs now = Hon Treant?
If they gave him Prophet's trees it would be HoN Treant  Overall the patch is nice. I like how they addressed the "Lycan Problem" and all the other changes are also welcome. I especially like the idea of tying BKB duration/cooldown to the player rather than an item. I only wonder if this will make buying new BKB a useless feature now... Jugg spinning inside of chrono or black hole might upset some people. A Jugg tossed spinning midair before crashing in the middle of the enemy team, on the other hand, would make me laugh so hard.
Jug/Naix Tiny tossed bombs ftw.
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Yeah I was wondering what exactly the exp/gold changes meant. thanks for the graphic
Also urn+napalm? that's almost like napalm+radi... :o
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the world isn't ready for timbersaw aghanim
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On September 24 2014 23:27 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 23:25 Alaric wrote:On September 24 2014 20:46 Manit0u wrote:On September 24 2014 19:57 Vansetsu wrote:
Dota Treant with aghs now = Hon Treant?
If they gave him Prophet's trees it would be HoN Treant Overall the patch is nice. I like how they addressed the "Lycan Problem" and all the other changes are also welcome. I especially like the idea of tying BKB duration/cooldown to the player rather than an item. I only wonder if this will make buying new BKB a useless feature now... Jugg spinning inside of chrono or black hole might upset some people. A Jugg tossed spinning midair before crashing in the middle of the enemy team, on the other hand, would make me laugh so hard. Jug/Naix Tiny tossed bombs ftw.
defensive blink > spin to stop void during chrono?
:D
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When's thsi goddamn patch hitting the client.
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On September 24 2014 23:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
When's thsi goddamn patch hitting the client.
Some point between tomorrow and the end of next week, probably.
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On September 24 2014 23:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
When's thsi goddamn patch hitting the client.
Isnt it at least in test client yet? I hope so, cause otherwise I'm wasting my time downloading it.
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On September 24 2014 23:54 Mafe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 23:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
When's thsi goddamn patch hitting the client. Isnt it at least in test client yet? I hope so, cause otherwise I'm wasting my time downloading it.
Yup.
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Is it just me or did Dire offlane made even worse for dire? :D
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too much for one patch + stuff that should never happen. might as well make a copy of LoL but add all the cosmetics.
Sad part is most people will like the patch, because its all new and shiny
"Oh look we get a different SF model with new blazing arcana :O" *forgets all the stupid things in the patch*
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On September 25 2014 00:01 Slomo wrote:
Is it just me or did Dire offlane made even worse for dire? :D
Holes in the treeline are good for the offlaner. More juke routes, more vision, etc.
Definitely an improvement.
On September 25 2014 00:03 Pandahunterz wrote:
too much for one patch + stuff that should never happen. might as well make a copy of LoL but add all the cosmetics.
Sad part is most people will like the patch, because its all new and shiny
"Oh look we get a different SF model with new blazing arcana :O" *forgets all the stupid things in the patch*
"waaaah this patch sux, its killing dota" -the masses, on every patch ever
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On September 25 2014 00:03 Pandahunterz wrote:
too much for one patch + stuff that should never happen. might as well make a copy of LoL but add all the cosmetics.
Sad part is most people will like the patch, because its all new and shiny
"Oh look we get a different SF model with new blazing arcana :O" *forgets all the stupid things in the patch*
You could not have made a more reductive or dismissive post if you tried. Personal opinions are hard.
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what's with all of the "this is LoL now" whining, I don't get it
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On September 25 2014 00:04 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 00:01 Slomo wrote:
Is it just me or did Dire offlane made even worse for dire? :D Holes in the treeline are good for the offlaner. More juke routes, more vision, etc. Definitely an improvement. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 00:03 Pandahunterz wrote:
too much for one patch + stuff that should never happen. might as well make a copy of LoL but add all the cosmetics.
Sad part is most people will like the patch, because its all new and shiny
"Oh look we get a different SF model with new blazing arcana :O" *forgets all the stupid things in the patch* "waaaah this patch sux, its killing dota" -the masses, on every patch ever
There's a reason this comic has been relevant for years, since before Dota 2 was a thing.
http://i.imgur.com/anoTQ.gif
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On September 25 2014 00:04 hooahah wrote:
what's with all of the "this is LoL now" whining, I don't get it
Its like people making fun of a new album by a band saying "they sold out and went main stream". Its just laziest comment you can make to try to get a rise out of people.
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On September 25 2014 00:04 hooahah wrote:
what's with all of the "this is LoL now" whining, I don't get it
Well the damage type changes, for example, are clearly aimed at making the game simpler. To the point where items like urn are being unintentionally rebalanced by the damage type changes in the name of simplicity (urn now cancels blink and salves/bottle/etc WTF). There are valid grounds for complaint tbh.
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Making things less stupidly complicated is good.
Composite damage is fucking stupid because it's not clear
BKB dispelling certain buffs and shit is fucking stupid.
Consistency and clear outlines is not going LoL, it's going sensical.
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Tinker will still work, still a fucking strong hero when you pick it in the last phases of draft when there is no tinker counter. But more for safelane tinker though, once you get soul ring, you can get some farm in the triple stack nc, while supports take over the safelane for xp. And i believe more tinkers will be going back to the old hex then dagon build, or hex into bloodstone for rax breaking.
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On September 25 2014 00:04 hooahah wrote:
what's with all of the "this is LoL now" whining, I don't get it
Its literally 2 people. PandahunterZ and PuroYo. Don't let 2 LoL trolls skew the view.
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