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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 09:08:49
January 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#1601
On January 24 2012 14:41 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 14:16 rabidch wrote:
On January 24 2012 13:32 dtz wrote:
Giving invoker away in a chinese competitive game especially is considered auto-lose....

Not sure where the notion of "he is not very popular anymore" comes from..

And emp-tornado is basically the only way these chinese plays them. Only Recca from Starsboba goes Quas/Exort if i'm not wrong and he goes a very weird build like blinkdagger first or something like that.

Not saying that invoker can only be played the Emp/tornado style but it is clearly superior when compared to exort builds in a proper game.


???

clearly a lot of teams have decided not to pick invoker and win against it anyway. theres plenty of very strong heroes as it is now and invoker is just one of many.


Auto-lose is a slight exagerration. He obviously does not have 100 percent win rate. But invoker is still extremely strong as opposed to just one of many or "not very popular anymore" as someone said earlier. In the WGT, he is almost always banned, He is probably top 3 most banned heroes together with lycan/bear.

According to one Chinese commentator (I forget if it was 2009 in PCGL or 820 in G-League), current banning strategies are focused around banning against players and teams, rather than against a specific hero, and that there's not really auto-lose/auto-win heroes. Invoker still stays high on the ban lists because many top teams have well-practiced Invoker players like DK's rotk or iG's 430, not necessarily because the hero itself is too strong.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 25 2012 01:14 GMT
#1602
Hmmm is dota2 down right now? after finishing a game it got all buggy, and now when i restarted everything is just grey.
Jieun <3
ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
January 25 2012 01:15 GMT
#1603
On January 25 2012 10:14 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Hmmm is dota2 down right now? after finishing a game it got all buggy, and now when i restarted everything is just grey.

Oh good, it's not just me that's having trouble. Yeah I think they're down.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 25 2012 01:16 GMT
#1604
On January 25 2012 10:15 ArcticVanguard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:14 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Hmmm is dota2 down right now? after finishing a game it got all buggy, and now when i restarted everything is just grey.

Oh good, it's not just me that's having trouble. Yeah I think they're down.


Thank god. For a second I had thought I had been banned from the beta or something lol. Was goign to throw myself off a bridge.
Jieun <3
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
January 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#1605
Yeah it's definitely down
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 25 2012 01:19 GMT
#1606
On January 25 2012 10:18 floor exercise wrote:
Yeah it's definitely down


One good thing I can say is at least they don't just interrupt you in the middle of a game, let you finish it out before it goes down.
Jieun <3
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:24:47
January 25 2012 01:21 GMT
#1607
It's back up again. =)
Edit: Everyone go search.. not finding a game atm. :D
ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
January 25 2012 01:21 GMT
#1608
Ah it's back up for me now.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#1609
Woohoo best game ever.
Jieun <3
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 25 2012 20:45 GMT
#1610
Just got Tiny for my first game ever. What a ganking machine! 23-1-11 feel like such a boss now.
Jieun <3
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
January 26 2012 00:11 GMT
#1611
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 26 2012 00:12 GMT
#1612
On January 26 2012 09:11 red_b wrote:
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.


Yea never seen a team try so hard to lose.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
January 26 2012 00:15 GMT
#1613
On January 26 2012 09:11 red_b wrote:
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.


link?
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 26 2012 00:27 GMT
#1614
I facepalmed so many times ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
January 26 2012 02:16 GMT
#1615
On January 26 2012 09:15 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 09:11 red_b wrote:
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.


link?


its on the first page of join dota vods.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
January 26 2012 03:40 GMT
#1616
On August 16 2011 11:35 paper wrote:
Champion -- from League of Legends
It's Hero. Also, Fountain and Tower.

MOBA -- Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
What competitive game isn't multiplayer, online, and takes on some sort of battle? The first three words apply to nearly every single online game that pits players against each other (obviously). The fourth word, arena, doesn't even describe the DotA-genre. Using that word implies an all-hostile area that dismisses DotA's territorial control and lane-pushing among its many facets of gameplay. Even RTSRPG would be a better (yet still lacking) acronym. If anything, use DotA as a genre of its own, or use its original form, AoS (Aeon of Strife). Please help stop the widespread use of the vague term MOBA!


my friend likes to call it a "laning" game. What do you guys think? Suitable enough? XD
Admin of High School Starleague // hsstarleague.com // https://www.facebook.com/HSStarleague // UCI Dota2 President https://www.facebook.com/groups/ucidota/
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
January 26 2012 10:52 GMT
#1617
Am I this bad at this game or is the match making too wide or is it that the game is still in beta? I´m tired of being matched with people first picking antimage but haven´t got a clue on how to lasthit or farm. Of people who in a lineup of spectre, gondar, naix thinks riki is a good pick, or anyone else totally gimped in lane. People who dies 5 times in lane during the first 10 minutes and starts blaming mid for not ganking. Suicidal huskars and barathrums. Dual ranged lanes managing to feed a solo riki. The list goes on and on, and if you ever for a second think you can predict a natural progression of a game, you are sorely mistaken. One thing I have realized, and that is that you never stop being amazed by the things you get to see when going solo mm.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 26 2012 11:01 GMT
#1618
On January 26 2012 19:52 Appendix wrote:
Am I this bad at this game or is the match making too wide or is it that the game is still in beta? I´m tired of being matched with people first picking antimage but haven´t got a clue on how to lasthit or farm. Of people who in a lineup of spectre, gondar, naix thinks riki is a good pick, or anyone else totally gimped in lane. People who dies 5 times in lane during the first 10 minutes and starts blaming mid for not ganking. Suicidal huskars and barathrums. Dual ranged lanes managing to feed a solo riki. The list goes on and on, and if you ever for a second think you can predict a natural progression of a game, you are sorely mistaken. One thing I have realized, and that is that you never stop being amazed by the things you get to see when going solo mm.

Now you're going all metaphysical man...

The matchmaking is still WIP and there are many people first timing/coming from low level in other games. It should stabilize after realease, don't expect too much from the beta.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
January 26 2012 11:55 GMT
#1619
On January 26 2012 11:16 red_b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 09:15 Fishgle wrote:
On January 26 2012 09:11 red_b wrote:
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.


link?


its on the first page of join dota vods.


I don't see it...I watched game 1 live but I didn't notice there was a second one... o.O
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 26 2012 12:38 GMT
#1620
On January 26 2012 20:55 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 11:16 red_b wrote:
On January 26 2012 09:15 Fishgle wrote:
On January 26 2012 09:11 red_b wrote:
you guys need to watch EG vs Next.KZ game 2.

I laughed my *** off.


link?


its on the first page of join dota vods.


I don't see it...I watched game 1 live but I didn't notice there was a second one... o.O

I'm quite sure this was a bo1 so no 2nd match. The first game however was really hilarious.
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