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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 20:25:24
September 14 2014 20:24 GMT
#129581
On September 15 2014 04:44 cecek wrote:
Strife seems like an interesting middleground between LoL and Dota. But it seems too similar to both of them, and it's not even going to be the "new cool moba" for very long, because HotS is coming out soon. Seems like pretty unfortunate timing for S2, to be honest. I don't think that game is going anywhere, but HotS will capture some new people coming into the genre for sure.

I don't see how it's supposed to be a "middle ground" when a lot of features feel like they aim to be even more casual than LoL.

It seems to be aimed in the same direction as HotS, and HotS is going to get a lot better advertisement/visibility because it's Blizzard.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 14 2014 20:24 GMT
#129582
strife is like scrolls of mojang. Its appealing and target a good market but they will be crushed as Blizzard is working on a very similar title that gona swoop their market share. people already forming teams with dedicated ban/pick websites for scriming in heroes of the storm. Tournament already going up left and right with casters and personalities being carried over from sc2.
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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
September 14 2014 20:27 GMT
#129583
People are actually building teams for Hots? That feels sad.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 14 2014 20:34 GMT
#129584
On September 15 2014 05:27 kirsed wrote:
People are actually building teams for Hots? That feels sad.

People hope it blows up as an esports and that they can become a big team there, if you're one of the first and become a popular streamer/end up on one of the best teams you can make big bucks(assuming it blows up in popularity).
That's how i see the fact that people are this eager to play it competitively anyway.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 14 2014 20:36 GMT
#129585
do people actually enjoy hots? ever since they revealed their bullshit progression update i lost all interest in the game.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 14 2014 20:45 GMT
#129586
On September 15 2014 05:36 idonthinksobro wrote:
do people actually enjoy hots? ever since they revealed their bullshit progression update i lost all interest in the game.


the what now?
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 20:51:52
September 14 2014 20:46 GMT
#129587
HotS is alright until you realize you could be playing Dota instead.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 14 2014 20:58 GMT
#129588
On September 15 2014 05:34 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 05:27 kirsed wrote:
People are actually building teams for Hots? That feels sad.

People hope it blows up as an esports and that they can become a big team there, if you're one of the first and become a popular streamer/end up on one of the best teams you can make big bucks(assuming it blows up in popularity).
That's how i see the fact that people are this eager to play it competitively anyway.

Idra was pretty frank and honest about this. He said if he was 16 again he'd be playing dota instead
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
September 14 2014 20:59 GMT
#129589
Inhouse Cant seem to get in.
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:16:17
September 14 2014 21:00 GMT
#129590
The trophy gallery now awards trophies for scores in the Last Hit Practice training. The trophy upgrades for every 15 last hits... up to 80 (in 10 minutes). I think it's possible to exceed 100 last hits via flash farming, but there's no trophy for doing so.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
September 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#129591
On September 15 2014 05:58 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 05:34 Unleashing wrote:
On September 15 2014 05:27 kirsed wrote:
People are actually building teams for Hots? That feels sad.

People hope it blows up as an esports and that they can become a big team there, if you're one of the first and become a popular streamer/end up on one of the best teams you can make big bucks(assuming it blows up in popularity).
That's how i see the fact that people are this eager to play it competitively anyway.

Idra was pretty frank and honest about this. He said if he was 16 again he'd be playing dota instead

If Idra was playing dota he would be nobody because he'd be unable to find a team with that attitude, sadly.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 14 2014 21:36 GMT
#129592
i thought like half of the dota competitive players are totally bm
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 14 2014 21:37 GMT
#129593
On September 15 2014 05:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 04:44 cecek wrote:
Strife seems like an interesting middleground between LoL and Dota. But it seems too similar to both of them, and it's not even going to be the "new cool moba" for very long, because HotS is coming out soon. Seems like pretty unfortunate timing for S2, to be honest. I don't think that game is going anywhere, but HotS will capture some new people coming into the genre for sure.

I don't see how it's supposed to be a "middle ground" when a lot of features feel like they aim to be even more casual than LoL.

It seems to be aimed in the same direction as HotS, and HotS is going to get a lot better advertisement/visibility because it's Blizzard.

Well, the items seem pretty similar to Dota. A lot of them actually have interesting actives and stuff. You also have a courier. On the other hand, lasthitting is way simplified and you can't deny. It's definitely closer to LoL than to DotA. In some aspects it's a simplified LoL, in some aspects it's a bit like DotA, imo.

HotS is simplified LoL all the way, and I think it's a smarter move, there's definitely more open market for "more casual LoL" than "kind of like LoL, kind of like DotA".

Also, really good comparison to Scrolls/Hearthstone. That's really spot on.
super gg
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:39:28
September 14 2014 21:39 GMT
#129594
On September 15 2014 06:00 Buckyman wrote:
The trophy gallery now awards trophies for scores in the Last Hit Practice training. The trophy upgrades for every 15 last hits... up to 80 (in 10 minutes). I think it's possible to exceed 100 last hits via flash farming, but there's no trophy for doing so.

There is a trophy for over 100 lasthits. You can get it easy by creepskipping with axe/darkseer and farming the enemy pull camp at the same time.

e: double posted. don't even care.
super gg
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 14 2014 21:39 GMT
#129595
HOTS has a good start.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 21:39:44
September 14 2014 21:39 GMT
#129596
HotS seems like a solid game for all of the foreigner sc2 pros who weren't good enough to eek out a living with it.

especially cause sc2 is dead
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 14 2014 22:12 GMT
#129597
Dead at Quake.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
September 14 2014 22:15 GMT
#129598
On September 15 2014 06:39 Comeh wrote:
HotS seems like a solid game for all of the foreigner sc2 pros who weren't good enough to eek out a living with it.

especially cause sc2 is dead

SC2 will live until Blizzard realizes that pumping hundred of thousands of dollars is in no way going to return itself. And then when they stop with WCS it will die.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 22:23:03
September 14 2014 22:21 GMT
#129599
It's gonna go like this: Blizzard is gonna release HotS, let it sit for a year, let the community run some tournaments and whatever. Then they're going to announce a WCS equivalent for HotS, give the SC2 people a year to jump the sinking ship, after one season of concurrent WCS and HotS series they discontinue WCS and SC2 officially becomes a ded gaem. Which is honestly pretty generous for the SC2 guys, because it;s gonna take Blizzard quite a while until they fully launch HotS probably.
super gg
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2014 22:23 GMT
#129600
What a fucking sad fate for SC2. I loved that game for most of WoL.

Does it actually just get money pumped into it, or is there still significant third-party support?
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